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the Trafford Park Railway System

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adamt958

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Just a query really,

want to get to know a bit more about the line,

Discovered it when i went to watch Cardiff City play Manure at Old Trafford yesterday and done a bit of goggling, just wondering what sort of loco's used to run the system etc. shame it's not still in use.
 
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M60lad

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And despite tracks and level crossing signs still in evidence round much of Trafford Park unfortunately most of the lines you can see have been out of use for years including the ones near Old Trafford
 

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Yeah the working down past Barton Dock road does still happen operated by a Class 09; I've not seen it for a while though however I seem to remember a mid day working and an evening working.
 

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Yeah the working down past Barton Dock road does still happen operated by a Class 09; I've not seen it for a while though however I seem to remember a mid day working and an evening working.

That partcular working no longer operates. The GBRf Trafford Park - Felixstowe now uses a different location in Trafford Park.

For more details of the railway system, look for a 2nd. hand, or reference library copy of a book, "The Railways of the Manchester Ship Canal" by Don Thorpe. It has plans, photos and other info. about the whole system, including Trafford Park.
 

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That partcular working no longer operates. The GBRf Trafford Park - Felixstowe now uses a different location in Trafford Park.

For more details of the railway system, look for a 2nd. hand, or reference library copy of a book, "The Railways of the Manchester Ship Canal" by Don Thorpe. It has plans, photos and other info. about the whole system, including Trafford Park.

What are the chances of the rest of the system being reinstated? Also is it possible for the casual visitor i.e. me being able to access the site? Whenever we visit relatives in the NW a trip to the Trafford Centre is often planned but I would be far more interested in looking at disused railway lines!
 

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Chances are minimal given the resources being put into Port Salford (including a railhead) on the other side of the Ship Canal, and the disruption it would cause to the roads in Trafford Park.

You can still see some sections of the track in place around Trafford Park eg across the roundabout at the north end of Europa Way: http://goo.gl/maps/hK5hc
 
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Thanks Paul, not mine but one I think is worth sharing!

P.S If you do visit the Trafford Centre and leave via the exit near John Lewis that takes you onto Parkway you will pass alongside the freight terminal and will be able to see the gates closed across the tracks that lead out onto Barton Dock Road.
 

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I notice, on Google Streetview, that a lot of the track on the southern branch has been removed recently (since I had a walk around the estate in late 2011).

On the Northern branch (to Cerestar), a lot of fences have been erected blocking the alignment and in places the track tarmaced over.

It's a shame but that's how railfreight is changing, even from the 1980's and 1990's.

Google Streetview / Satellite is a good way of studying the remains of the entire Trafford Park and Ship Canal lines. Odd bits of track, road crossings etc.

In recent years, 3 basic lines;
1) The Manchester Ship Canal railway from Trafford Park to Containerbase. This is the one in use most recently. Commences at the sidings at Trafford Park near the Bridgewater Canal, runs westwards alongside Barton Dock Road then goes off road to finish at Containerbase near to the Trafford Centre. From another forum "The line to Containerbase, which used to also serve Kelloggs, is part of the Ship Canal system which has always been separately owned and managed. Kellogg's traffic stopped in the 80s when they started to use bigger pallets that would not fit in the BR air-braked vans".

2 and 3) The Trafford Park Estate network, much reduced from its original extent, runs from sidings at Trafford Park (near Norbert Dentressangle on Google Maps) heads north alongside Europa Way then west along Trafford Park Road. Shown on Google maps to this point. The line then split into 2 branches, the southern heading off 'cross-country' behind Village Way, re-appearing at Ashburton Road West and running as far as 'Tenmat' (on Google Maps). The northern branch continuing along Trafford Park Road to its end at Cerestar, underneath the A576 Centenary Way.

The site linked to above, showing lots of photos, shows a good proportion of the visible remains.
 
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What are the chances of the rest of the system being reinstated? Also is it possible for the casual visitor i.e. me being able to access the site? Whenever we visit relatives in the NW a trip to the Trafford Centre is often planned but I would be far more interested in looking at disused railway lines!

Not much chance of major reopening. Many of the factories it used to serve are now closed, or have no rail traffic.

Some sections of used or disused lines can be seen on public roads. If you look at this bus map:

http://www.tfgm.com/journey_planning/Pages/network-maps/network-map-Salford.html

Follow bus route 250 from the Trafford Centre towards Manchester. Track remnants were still present a few weeks ago near the junction between Park Way and Village Way.

Follow bus routes 18 & ML1 from Trafford Centre towards Stretford, and the section of railway still used daily until recently runs alongside Barton Dock Road, on the section to the south east side of the Park Way flyover.
 

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So there are still some services trundling along Barton Dock Road to the container terminal?
 

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So there are still some services trundling along Barton Dock Road to the container terminal?

As far as I can tell, and as Bevan Price stated above, the general consensus on various forums is that the GBRf Felixstowe intermodal service has ceased operating from Barton Dock and now departs from the Euroterminal in Trafford Park instead so no Class 09 on Barton Dock Road anymore. I'm sure lots of motorists will be happy that they don't have to wait at Park Road anymore!
 

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There are other smaller signs of it just outside the park and closer to the ground as well like here which is just over the road from Old Trafford football ground.

It makes sense I suppose but it's a real shame that there will be no more working on Trafford park it's self
 

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What is ironic is that despite how long the railway system in/around Trafford Park has been out of use the signs warning motorists about Slow Moving Trains are still evident and have been for quite a number of years now
 

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What is ironic is that despite how long the railway system in/around Trafford Park has been out of use the signs warning motorists about Slow Moving Trains are still evident and have been for quite a number of years now

Is there an updated version of this sign?
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All of those signs are still in place? On Barton Dock Road there looks to be a few older style ones in the undergrowth on the Kellogs sign
 

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Chances are minimal given the resources being put into Port Salford (including a railhead) on the other side of the Ship Canal, and the disruption it would cause to the roads in Trafford Park.

You can still see some sections of the track in place around Trafford Park eg across the roundabout at the north end of Europa Way: http://goo.gl/maps/hK5hc

Is that what all the work is that you can see when you drive over Irlam Viaduct? I wondered what was going on down there :D
 

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The details of the WGIS Port Salford are towards the bottom of this page (A57 and see FAQ) - new road across the ship canal coming soon.
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