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backontrack

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http://i.imgur.com/u9HzqVk.jpg

Backontrack did play Oakham, then edited it to Leicester, and then again crossed it out.

My Stamford was a reply to that, and a leg winner.

Sorry. I hadn't seen the latest page until I'd posted, so got muddled. I'd originally posted Leicester before Oakham, then had edited it. Because Leicester wasn't a duplicate (it didn't immediately follow it) I edited my posting to reflect this.
 

Quakkerillo

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You have a point that backontrack did this, however, this was prior to the Melton Mowbray posting and nothing misses out Melton, so his Oakham would be invalid direct from Leicester.

My image clearly shows a post at :52 by you playing Melton.
followed by a post at :53 with Oakham.

Both unedited, and valid. Please explain why it is invalid.


Okay, so it was valid, and I play(ed) Stamford?

Is that it, can we leave this huge mess behind and start somewhere else anew?
 
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backontrack

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Sorry. I hadn't seen the latest page until I'd posted, so got muddled. I'd originally posted Leicester before Oakham, then had edited it. Because Leicester wasn't a duplicate (it didn't immediately follow it) I edited my posting to reflect this.

This. I'd already posted Leicester in that post, had changed it to Oakham, and changed it back to reflect that I'd originally posted Leicester.
 

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Backontrack, please re-instate your Oakham posting on 79913. Regardless of intention, if a valid move is posted, it remains valid. The rules clearly state that moves should not be edited, but struck through.

Based on the above, as a posting was edited, there will be a 10 point penalty on this leg.
 

backontrack

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My image clearly shows a post at :52 by you playing Melton.
followed by a post at :53 with Oakham.

Both unedited, and valid. Please explain why it is invalid.


Okay, so it was valid, and I play(ed) Stamford?

Is that it, can we leave this huge mess behind and start somewhere else anew?

To be honest, I'm happy as long as DasLunatic doesn't get the points. Although I would have liked them, as this has been a very high-scoring leg.
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Backontrack, please re-instate your Oakham posting on 79913. Regardless of intention, if a valid move is posted, it remains valid. The rules clearly state that moves should not be edited, but struck through.

Based on the above, as a posting was edited, there will be a 10 point penalty on this leg.

Why? I had initially posted Leicester, and it's now been struck through.
 

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I concur that Quakerillo was the winner of the last leg and should post the new starting station ONCE backontrack has edited posting #79913 to Oakham.
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Why? I had initially posted Leicester, and it's now been struck through.

There is no evidence to show that posting #79913 originally said Leicester, but there is to show it shows Oakham. This shows the importance of striking through.

There have been many players in the past who have done this to try and gain rather than play with a straight bat and followed the rules as other players have. I also have done this in the past and got a right ticking off from Paul and Clagmonster for doing so. :)
 
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Well, I'm taking a break from this thread. The whole game's descended into farce recently, and this is the final straw.
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I concur that Quakerillo was the winner of the last leg and should post the new starting station ONCE backontrack has edited posting #79913 to Oakham.
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There is no evidence to show that posting #79913 originally said Leicester, but there is to show it shows Oakham. This shows the importance of striking through.

There have been many players in the past who have done this to try and gain rather than play with a straight bat and followed the rules as other players have. I also have done this in the past and got a right ticking off from Paul and Clagmonster. :)

This is absolutely ludicrous. This just shows that such evidence has never been recorded. It is absolutely true. If you go and look at the post now, you will see that Leicester is there and was struck through. <(

Well, that's fine. I guess a member who doesn't play with a 'straight bat' can't be expected to be an adjudicator either. I'm off.
 
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Buttsy

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Well, I'm taking a break from this thread. The whole game's descended into farce recently, and this is the final straw.
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This is absolutely ludicrous. This just shows that such evidence has never been recorded. It is absolutely true. If you go and look at the post now, you will see that Leicester is there and was struck through. <(

Well, that's fine. I guess a member who doesn't play with a 'straight bat' can't be expected to be an adjudicator either. I'm off.

So how come it says Oakham and you yourself have admitted to editing the move from Leicester to Oakham and back to Leicester...

The HOLD is back on the game awaiting Clagmonster or Paul to review matters.
 

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ADJUDICATION FROM ONE THE THREE SENIOR ADJUDICATORS TO THIS QUIZ

We find ourselves in a most unusual position where a number of contentious matters have occurred and therefore in my appointed capacity, I am calling a complete halt to the progress of this quiz.

You will all be aware that clagmonster is not only a senior adjudicator to this quiz, but is also the accredited scorer and as it will be he who has to trawl through this mass of confusion, in order now to confirm if any postings needing to still be struck through are done and then to confirm where the last correctly named station allows the quiz to be continued from.

I have never had such a sorry state of affairs to deal with since I helped adtrainz to both design and launch this quiz back in October 2011.
 

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The screenshot from Quakerillo clearly shows that post 79913 originally read 'Oakham'. At that point Oakham was a valid move from Leicester. Thus as Peterborough has already been played, I am satisfied that Quakerillo has indeed won with his post of Stamford in post 79914.

As post 79913 now reads:
"Leicester

Oakham"
it is clear that it has been edited at some point. It is impossible to tell categorically what it has read, but from the testimony it would appear to have been edited to read Leicester, then edited again to its present state. Thus I am compelled by the rules to award a 10 point deduction to the leg.

May I also state that none of this reflects what I think were intentions. I can not read somebodies mind, so can't tell intent, but as a first incident I am happy to allow benefit of the doubt and assume that there was no intention of dishonesty.

Unless anybody has any objections, it is Quakerillo's floor.
 

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ADJUDICATION FROM ONE THE THREE SENIOR ADJUDICATORS TO THIS QUIZ

We find ourselves in a most unusual position where a number of contentious matters have occurred and therefore in my appointed capacity, I am calling a complete halt to the progress of this quiz.

You will all be aware that clagmonster is not only a senior adjudicator to this quiz, but is also the accredited scorer and as it will be he who has to trawl through this mass of confusion, in order now to confirm if any postings needing to still be struck through are done and then to confirm where the last correctly named station allows the quiz to be continued from.

I have never had such a sorry state of affairs to deal with since I helped adtrainz to both design and launch this quiz back in October 2011.

My sincere apologies for the mess Paul.
 

Quakkerillo

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Thanks for the clarification.

Let's leave this whole thing behind us, and move towards the coast to enjoy a nice calm afternoon.

Chandlers Ford
 

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