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AJUDICATION

According to the Caledonian Sleeper online timetable the 00:13 ex Inverkeithing on Monday mornings only runs non-stop to London Euston with note A (Sunday 01 April until Sunday 13 May), which counts as the current timetable

I would rather not make an adjudication on my own move bit it appears I have to
 
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DanTrain said:
According to RTT, that’s a temporary diversion down the ECML. Seeing as an adjudication has been made, we’re at Warrinton Bank Quay.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/G60102/2018/04/15/advanced
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If that be the case, can all affected incorrect postings made be struck-through. Otherwise, I have a feeling that our accredited scorer will consider this thread to be null and void, as was the case a few weeks ago when incorrect postings were just left open and unchanged.
 
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adtrainz said:
Guide Notes
  • Only stations on the National Rail network are acceptable to be used.
  • The current timetable is used, and amendments for things like Engineering Work are ignored unless they are noted in the "Red List" of amendments in the second posting of the thread, usually reserved for changes lasting longer than a month.
  • You cannot use any freight lines, but you can use any line that has a passenger service at least weekly (not every 3rd Monday etc).
  • Moves must continue from the station last posted - you can't "walk" between adjacent stations, e.g. from West Hampstead to West Hampstead Thameslink.
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Perhaps this is an opportune time to draw the attention of newer contestants to the Guide Notes section of the rules of the quiz.....particularly the emboldened SECOND section item of the four items shown above.
 
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Paul Sidorczuk said:
Perhaps this is an opportune time to draw the attention of newer contestants to the Guide Notes section of the rules of the quiz.....particularly the emboldened SECOND section item of the four items shown above.
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I thought as much.

We currently have no adjudicators to be seen online, so I will step in.

I would like to ask @A Challenge to review the situation and I also suggest that he strike through his posting of Warrington Bank Quay, which appears to be invalid for the reasons stated above by @Paul Sidorczuk.

I would also like to ask @DasLunatic to strike through his posting of Runcorn East unless this action is challenged by an adjudicator, QuizMaster, moderator or administrator.

If this plan is set in motion, then, in accordance with the rules, I would like to refer play back to this earlier posting:

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We continue from Inverkeithing...


North Queensferry
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I have no official power of adjudication on this thread, so I understand if this intervention seems rather less than de rigeur. I am also aware of the fact that we likely rely on any action to be ratified by one of this game's 'top brass'. I am merely suggesting a course of action to take place, and I hope that said plan proves satisfactory to you all.
 
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A passing message for the new member currently reading this thread: don't be daunted, it's usually a lot less muddled than this ;)
 
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I will leave this to the QMs however the rules state:
  • A direct train is a passenger service run by a National Rail TOC. The current timetable is used, and amendments for things like Engineering Work are ignored unless they are noted in the "Red List" of amendments in the next post, usually reserved for changes lasting longer than a month. You can ignore any pick up/set down only restrictions.

The call at Edinburgh is not a public one, so we need to consider whether the train calls at Preston or goes direct to Euston via ECML. I disagree with the user of the word "Parliamentary" in the post; it is nothing to do with that. It is due to engineering works on Sunday nights. Normally these are ignored. However in this case it is for over a month, so the rule above suggests that it may be OK in this case.
 
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yorkie said:
The call at Edinburgh is not a public one, so we need to consider whether the train calls at Preston or goes direct to Euston via ECML. I disagree with the user of the word "Parliamentary" in the post; it is nothing to do with that. It is due to engineering works on Sunday nights. Normally these are ignored. However in this case it is for over a month, so the rule above suggests that it may be OK in this case.
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Thank you for this.

In that case, there are two parts to the query: firstly the validity of Edinburgh Waverley as a station stop on the sleeper (if the answer is 'yes, it's valid' then we need not consider the second), and secondly the question of whether the engineering works must be acknowledged in this game or not.

If the powers that be rule that Edinburgh Waverley is indeed valid, then we may play on from North Queensferry.

If, however, it is considered by them that Edinburgh Waverley is, in fact, invalid (I for one would suggest that it is not valid as one cannot board the Highland Sleeper at Inverkeithing and disembark at Edinburgh Waverley, and the game does endeavour to retain some sort of realism), then the second question emerges: do we acknowledge the engineering works or not? If so, then we should head to London Euston; if not, then we should play on from North Queensferry.

We now await an official adjudication.
 
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ADJUDICATION

I have just come across this as I was completing the scoring update.

Firstly, A Challenge has full adjudicator's powers. If anyone has any complaints, I suggest it be taken up formally with either the Quizmasters, Administrators or Moderators.

He made an adjudication that was perfectly correct and provided links to prove it. That should be an end to the matter.

Inverkeithing to London Euston is perfectly valid (and scores a Long Wait Bonus. ;) ) London Euston to Warrington Bank Quay was subsequently played, and thence to Runcorn East, from where play continues.
 
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Darren R said:
ADJUDICATION
Inverkeithing to London Euston is perfectly valid (and scores a Long Wait Bonus. ;) ) London Euston to Warrington Bank Quay was subsequently played, and thence to Runcorn East, from where play continues.
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Thank you for this adjudication, that clears some stuff up. Similar situations with the sleeper have come up before, so I hope that this is the end of it and that a precedent can be set.

I do think, however, that if an adjudication appears not to match the rules of the game then it is our job to flag it up. That doesn't necessarily mean that the adjudication was invalid, but it definitely seems the sensible thing to do.

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Runcorn East
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Let's put all this behind us and sample the joys of Frodsham
 
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