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El-Alamein
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I know its early but Merry Christmas to all. Have a good one relax and i like many others will enjoy 2016 and what it brings!
Merry Christmas talent pool companions. Not only is it Christmas Day, it's also Friday (again) 
No doubt the optimists amongst us will be rejoicing, but personally, I think that there is more chance of a second coming than GTR phoning me today to tell me I am being 'progressed'.
Best wishes to you all for 2016 and may your wait for the news that you long for be a short one (next week, next month, next year... it's all the same).
Have a great Christmas, New Year and all that it brings !
No doubt the optimists amongst us will be rejoicing, but personally, I think that there is more chance of a second coming than GTR phoning me today to tell me I am being 'progressed'.
Best wishes to you all for 2016 and may your wait for the news that you long for be a short one (next week, next month, next year... it's all the same).
Have a great Christmas, New Year and all that it brings !
I got my job off the back of a phone call. I have also recommended someone local to me to keep bugging them on the phone and he has an assessment upcoming in the new year.
I understand what you guys are saying but I can guarantee they are not sitting there going oh isn't it good they are so keen lol yes chase them up once in a while but it sounds like people are constantly on the blower.
I didn't hear anything for over two years after I applied so you need to be patient.
Your time will come
I didn't hear anything for over two years after I applied so you need to be patient.
Your time will come
I went from somewhere deep in a pile on a guys desk to assessment 2 days later.
You can't "guarantee" anything. Its hard, if not impossible to determine what the person on the other end of the phone is thinking and how they will treat your application.
The guy who I have been giving advice too was also told to wait etc but considering he has an assessment in Jan I would say that keeping in contact with the TOC's can be a good thing.
Whilst I don't suggest constant calls on a daily basis I do advocate keeping in touch. Waiting for years in a talent pool is just another method the TOC's are using to defer and sift applicants. Consider that there is a talent pool yet vacancies are still advertised. We have new Trainees that applied less than a few months ago. So much for the talent pool.
You can't "guarantee" anything. Its hard, if not impossible to determine what the person on the other end of the phone is thinking and how they will treat your application.
The guy who I have been giving advice too was also told to wait etc but considering he has an assessment in Jan I would say that keeping in contact with the TOC's can be a good thing.
Whilst I don't suggest constant calls on a daily basis I do advocate keeping in touch. Waiting for years in a talent pool is just another method the TOC's are using to defer and sift applicants. Consider that there is a talent pool yet vacancies are still advertised. We have new Trainees that applied less than a few months ago. So much for the talent pool.
GrandOldDukeOf
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Anyone else starting on the 11th beginning to get a little nervous now? Feels like my first day at school all over again.
ChampsRacing
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You go into the talent pool if you've passed the medical.
You also go into the talent pool if you've passed the assessment, passed the DMI and are waiting to be offered a medical.
It's perfectly possible to have your assessments, interviews, medical and job offer without being put into a talent pool. Other seasoned contributors to the forums (previously involved in driver recruitment) have alluded to the process used to grade applicants.
A lot of what you read here is rumour and speculation from fellow applicants. Judging by the last few pages it just seems to wind people up! Unless you hear it from HR directly then take with a pinch of salt.
Consider this from ComUtoR on the previous page: "I went from somewhere deep in a pile on a guys desk to assessment 2 days later. You can't "guarantee" anything. Its hard, if not impossible to determine what the person on the other end of the phone is thinking and how they will treat your application.....Waiting for years in a talent pool is just another method the TOC's are using to defer and sift applicants. Consider that there is a talent pool yet vacancies are still advertised. We have new Trainees that applied less than a few months ago. So much for the talent pool."
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As IKB states there's a heck of a lot of rumour and speculation.
You cannot go into a talent pool if you have not had a medical. The whole idea is to pass everything, including medical, then be told that they will contact you in due course.
Do you know, RedZed, of anyone who started training without a medical?
Um, I beg to differ....forgive my lack of comprehension of the English language, but...one of several emails sent to me from GTR stating:
"This email is to advise you that you remain in our talent pool for the role of Trainee Train Driver as you have passed the entire assessment process including interview".
Yes...its says YOU. It doesn't say EVERYONE. Re-read what ComUtoR said on the previous page.
My response was aimed specifically at JohnFM and his statement "You cannot go into a talent pool if you have not had a medical. The whole idea is to pass everything, including medical, then be told that they will contact you in due course."
The email that I received from GTR was generic and not aimed at me directly as the distribution list was to "undisclosed recipients" signifying more than one person and the fact that the email was addressed "Dear Candidate", and therefore not directly personal to me. The only thing I can infer from this is that there are others 'in the talent pool' who received the same email as me, who don't have medicals, thereby negating JohnFM's statement that you cannot go into a talent pool if you haven't had a medical.
Having a generic email shows how little your application is worth to the TOC and shows the value of the Talent pools. This is NOT me on some kind of wind up but there needs to be some form of reality check.
Back in the day (I'm old) this was "don't call us, we'll call you"
What has become very apparent is that due to an obscene number of applicants what is happening is that the HR departments are keeping the whole process going rather than the issue of having to start from scratch for each and every new vacancy. That caused a new issue where many people had now passed but there is no job.
This isn't even one sided. There are people, as evidenced by this forum, that apply to numerous TOC's so the TOC's have applicants that invariably drop out so they have no incentive to immediately employ. They are well aware that candidates will now use any TOC just to get an assessment.
So what about those vacancies ?
They are STILL advertising and I'm stunned no one has ever really sat there and thought. "why not dip into the talent pool ?" Does no one ever consider that there was a vacancy, you applied, passed everything but still wasn't given the job ? Why have so many new trainees never heard of the talent pool ? They go straight from application to job.
Please don't see this as anything less than another part of the sifting process. You can, if you choose, sit in the talent pool and be just another "candidate" or you can pick up the phone every now and then and become a person.
Back in the day (I'm old) this was "don't call us, we'll call you"
What has become very apparent is that due to an obscene number of applicants what is happening is that the HR departments are keeping the whole process going rather than the issue of having to start from scratch for each and every new vacancy. That caused a new issue where many people had now passed but there is no job.
This isn't even one sided. There are people, as evidenced by this forum, that apply to numerous TOC's so the TOC's have applicants that invariably drop out so they have no incentive to immediately employ. They are well aware that candidates will now use any TOC just to get an assessment.
So what about those vacancies ?
They are STILL advertising and I'm stunned no one has ever really sat there and thought. "why not dip into the talent pool ?" Does no one ever consider that there was a vacancy, you applied, passed everything but still wasn't given the job ? Why have so many new trainees never heard of the talent pool ? They go straight from application to job.
Please don't see this as anything less than another part of the sifting process. You can, if you choose, sit in the talent pool and be just another "candidate" or you can pick up the phone every now and then and become a person.
I feel I have to add my six penneth to this petty bicker.
A friend of mine is a current driver based at the depot I am aiming for. Worked for them for years. Hes been keeping me upto date with info.
This is no ordinary recruitment drive. There has never been one on this scale before, and he has told me, that if they could cope with the demand they would have us all in training already.
The talent pool, whilst traditionally used as a 'holding pen' for candidates until, or if, someone better came along, is now a necessity as they cant physically handle dozens, maybe hundreds, of trainees, all starting their training at once.
The reason they are still assessing new candidates, is not down to the TP being an average bunch, but because they actually need the numbers to eventually fulfil the roles. If not, then why are newly assessed candidates not being put through medicals yet? Nothing to do with anything other than a lengthy queue. If TP members were of average quality, they'd medical up the newbees and get them in. But they haven't. That lot have been told to wait til some space gets freed up.
This is no ordinary recruitment drive. None of us are purely ITK unless we work in HR.
Relax. It'll happen. If you want to pester them on the phone that's up to you, but they've told us what the score is, so learn some patience.
A friend of mine is a current driver based at the depot I am aiming for. Worked for them for years. Hes been keeping me upto date with info.
This is no ordinary recruitment drive. There has never been one on this scale before, and he has told me, that if they could cope with the demand they would have us all in training already.
The talent pool, whilst traditionally used as a 'holding pen' for candidates until, or if, someone better came along, is now a necessity as they cant physically handle dozens, maybe hundreds, of trainees, all starting their training at once.
The reason they are still assessing new candidates, is not down to the TP being an average bunch, but because they actually need the numbers to eventually fulfil the roles. If not, then why are newly assessed candidates not being put through medicals yet? Nothing to do with anything other than a lengthy queue. If TP members were of average quality, they'd medical up the newbees and get them in. But they haven't. That lot have been told to wait til some space gets freed up.
This is no ordinary recruitment drive. None of us are purely ITK unless we work in HR.
Relax. It'll happen. If you want to pester them on the phone that's up to you, but they've told us what the score is, so learn some patience.
Im probably the most recent to have an interview and ask some questions, they said they are recruiting for the talent pool as their training capacity is full. They said the talent pool is up to a 12 month waiting list and they also told me everyone in the talent pool will
be offered a position but it's done by an order of suitability and location.
I was just wondering about why some have medicals and other don't.
be offered a position but it's done by an order of suitability and location.
I was just wondering about why some have medicals and other don't.
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Exactly i think people from the outside dont realise that this is a huge recruitment drive... And is not a traditional TP
Ive spoken to 3 different people in HR since May who have all said I will be placed and everyone is to be placed.
Its the sheer volume which is causing delays, they are at capacity training wise, and courses will be released when there is capacity.
Hi again, I have applied for both 3bridges back in August, and the recent London vacancies, but have had no contact from them as yet, I have also passed the assessments earlier this year with another TOC. Does anyone think this is a goid sign to progression to a DMI? Have people had rejections from application stage? Just looking for a little light on the situation!
Hi
Gtr did tell us at the assessment centres their pass mark is set higher than other TOCs so there could be extra modules for you to complete or worst case you didn't make the GTR pass mark. Have you received any emails at all from GTR?
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