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The First And Last Of Everything...

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I can't find the information on Google. Can anyone tell.....

- The first mainline diesel service in the UK
- The first route for electrification in the UK
- The first Class 66 in the UK
- The last mainline steam service in the UK
- The route with the oldest stock in regular usage

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Hakzi.
 
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For the last one, I'll guess at at the Lymington Branch Line, using class 421s, but don't take that as a fact just yet.
 

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Some Class 121's were older than the 421's and one is still in semi use by ATW (I think). First 66 must surely have been 66001?
 

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The first route for electrification in the UK

I believe the first in the UK was the line along Brighton seafront in the 1880's.
There were others being developed in Europe at the same time but the first in London (on what we know and love as the Underground!) was in 1890 . The London Brige to Victoria line follwed in 1903 and the Tyneside suburban (now Metro) in 1904.
All different voltages of course!
 

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Some Class 121's were older than the 421's and one is still in semi use by ATW (I think). First 66 must surely have been 66001?

Or class 483's on the Isle of White. Built in 1938. 121's were built in the 60's!!
 

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Jackobite anyone? that would be a regular service...

LMS had a diesel shunter in 1934...

erm, thats me beggerd ;)

and what are you classing as regular useage?

Theres the old pullman cars, erm, and a lot of preserved stock that you could say is in regular service...?
 

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The electrification question needs better phrasing. Are we talking about recognisably "mainline" applications or any form of electric traction?

Brighton's Volks Railway might well be the first UK electric railway, but the first to use standard gauge electric traction was the City & South London Railway (later to form part of the Northern line) in Dec 1890, closely followed by the Liverpool Overhead Railway in Feb 1893. However, these can be viewed as a purely "Metro" system as they have no links with the mainline network.

The first mainline electrification was the NER's Tyneside Electrics network in 1904. The LB&SCR were a distant 3rd with their London Bridge to Victoria via Denmark Hill line (Dec 1909), tailing the Midland Railway's Lancaster to Morcambe and Heysham route (Apr 1908 ) by 20 months.

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Not sure I would class a shunter as a "mainline service". Even so, the closest I can get is LMS 1831, which was an ultimately unsuccessful experimental diesel shunter rebuilt from an 0-6-0 steam engine in 1931. The next oldest mainline loco is BR Class D16/1 10000 which appeared in Nov 1947.

However, both GWR and LMS experimented with diesel railcars from 1933 onwards.

The LMS purchased three 95hp 4-wheeled railcars from Leyland in 1933 which were trialled on the Preston to Carlisle route before seeing service on the Blackburn to Springvale and Clitheroe routes. There was also another diesel-electric railcar that operated between London and Castle Bromwich for two weeks during 1933 in connection with an industry fair. (The LMS later ordered a 3 car streamlined articulated set from the Derby works, which was delivered in 1939. This saw use on the Cambridge to Oxford route and then the St Pancras to Nottingham route before beng withdrawn at the outbreak of WW2. After the war it was converted to a 2 car formation as an OLE maintenance train and continued in this form until the late 1950's. With 750hp on tap in a unit weighing 73 tons in total, it must have been one hell of a flyer in it's original form.)

The GWR produced it's prototype diesel railcar in 1934, gradually adding to it's fleet during the 1930's and early 1940's.

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First 66 was 001, delivered to Immingham (as opposed to Newport for all 249 others).
 

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From what I can make out, the first Mainline Diesel was 10000 in 1948. It ran services on the midland region, at first Derby/St Pancras runs.....
 

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the first class 66 was deleivered to immingham in 1998 this year is the class 66s 10th birthday
 
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