The "And in other news..." thread

[High Dyke]

Oops:

Fan attends wrong St James' Park football stadium 366 miles away

The supporter travelled from London to Exeter, instead of Newcastle.

www.bbc.co.uk

Well, at least he saw some football.

 

[Trackman]

Well, at least he saw some football.

Were Exeter playing that night? That would make matters worse.

 

[High Dyke]

Were Exeter playing that night? That would make matters worse.

Yes, lost 1-0 to Lincoln City.

 

[Trackman]

Marmalade to be re-branded in post-Brexit food deal​

Marmalade to be rebranded in post-Brexit food deal

The breakfast favourite will be legally renamed when Britain aligns with new EU labelling rules.

www.bbc.co.uk

The breakfast favourite will have to be sold as "citrus marmalade" if the agreement goes ahead, when Britain will readopt new EU food regulations in a bid to boost trade and reduce red tape for British exporters.

The name change is required because Brussels is relaxing its labelling rules, widening the legal definition of marmalade across Europe for the first time.

A UK government spokesperson said on Friday that British marmalade was "not changing" and would remain the same product available in shops, adding the EU deal would support businesses by removing costly red tape.

please god help me.

 

[DelW]

Marmalade to be re-branded in post-Brexit food deal​

Marmalade to be rebranded in post-Brexit food deal

The breakfast favourite will be legally renamed when Britain aligns with new EU labelling rules.

www.bbc.co.uk

please god help me.

Probably GB News, the Tories and Farage will claim this is the end of civilisation as we know it, but it's actually a consequence of Brexit. Way back, Britain insisted that marmalade must only be made with citrus fruits, and that was incorporated into EU rules. Since we left, other countries which used similar words for non-citrus spreads have lobbied to allow those words to be used with other fruit. The new labelling rules mean that the type of fruit used must be specified in the name on the label.

If we harmonise our rules to reduce cross-border friction, we'll have to use "citrus marmalade" (or presumably just "orange marmalade") on the label. I can remember "Rose's Lime Marmalade" decades ago, and I think Robertson's Silver Shred was lemon marmalade, so it's hardly a completely new phenomenon. But that won't stop the usual bunch of politicians jumping up and down spouting faux outrage about it.

 

[Merle Haggard]

Probably GB News, the Tories and Farage will claim this is the end of civilisation as we know it, but it's actually a consequence of Brexit. Way back, Britain insisted that marmalade must only be made with citrus fruits, and that was incorporated into EU rules. Since we left, other countries which used similar words for non-citrus spreads have lobbied to allow those words to be used with other fruit. The new labelling rules mean that the type of fruit used must be specified in the name on the label.

If we harmonise our rules to reduce cross-border friction, we'll have to use "citrus marmalade" (or presumably just "orange marmalade") on the label. I can remember "Rose's Lime Marmalade" decades ago, and I think Robertson's Silver Shred was lemon marmalade, so it's hardly a completely new phenomenon. But that won't stop the usual bunch of politicians jumping up and down spouting faux outrage about it.

But isn't a more accurate word for 'marmalade made with a fruit other than citrus' just 'jam'?

 

[edwin_m]

But isn't a more accurate word for 'marmalade made with a fruit other than citrus' just 'jam'?

In English yes, but the article points out that Italian and Spanish use words similar to marmalade for non-citrus spreads.

"Citrus marmalade" does seem a bit weird but just naming whatever fruit it's made from sounds fine to me, and probably helpful to many people.

 

[GusB]

It's a non-issue. The article linked in post 2194 states:

The extent to which consumers will notice a difference on shop shelves is not exactly clear. The new rules say product descriptions containing the name of a citrus fruit, such as "lemon marmalade", will be allowed as an alternative.

So we can still have orange marmalade, lime marmalade etc.

I have to admit that the first thing I did was check the date of the article, considering the time of year!

 

[DelW]

But isn't a more accurate word for 'marmalade made with a fruit other than citrus' just 'jam'?

Chambers traces the etymology back to a Portuguese word for a quince, and beyond that back to a Greek word meaning sweet apple, so it's arguably English that has it wrong - or at least incorrectly limited in its application.

 

[edwin_m]

However, when word spreads about this it may give some people a jar.

 

[4COR]

As long as no one gets in a pickle over it.

 

[kkong]

I doubt this will cause much of a fuss.

After all, how many people know what the legal definition of "jam" is in the UK, or how jam differs from the "preserve" and "conserve" jars alongside it on the supermarket shelf?

 

[Gloster]

I doubt this will cause much of a fuss.

In a rational world it wouldn’t, but in the current climate the moron-herders will be spouting their usual ill-informed rabble-rousing rubbish. It is just as important as blue passports wasn’t, but that won’t stop them trying to make it a death or glory issue.

 

[AM9]

In a rational world it wouldn’t, but in the current climate the moron-herders will be spouting their usual ill-informed rabble-rousing rubbish. It is just as important as blue passports wasn’t, but that won’t stop them trying to make it a death or glory issue.

Maybe they'll demand that all jams and marmalade are called jelly.

 

[The exile]

I doubt this will cause much of a fuss.

After all, how many people know what the legal definition of "jam" is in the UK, or how jam differs from the "preserve" and "conserve" jars alongside it on the supermarket shelf?

And indeed, how many commercial products are just labelled “marmalade” without specifying the fruit?

 

[edwin_m]

As long as no one gets in a pickle over it.

The conserve-atives might. Hopefully the government is ex-pectin a fuss and will be able to keep a lid on it.

 

[317 forever]

In English yes, but the article points out that Italian and Spanish use words similar to marmalade for non-citrus spreads.

"Citrus marmalade" does seem a bit weird but just naming whatever fruit it's made from sounds fine to me, and probably helpful to many people.

Even if it becomes mandatory to call it citrus marmalade for retail purposes, people will just continue to talk about it as marmalade.

 

[MotCO]

It's not as though the EU has any more pressing things to turn its attention to, like a couple of wars, rising prices, unemployment, migration crisis etc.

 

[Gloster]

It's not as though the EU has any more pressing things to turn its attention to, like a couple of wars, rising prices, unemployment, migration crisis etc.

This is merely the final result of a long process that probably started before the Franco-Prussian War. It was probably decided months ago, but took a time to complete the automatic process before it could be announced.

 

[najaB]

It's not as though the EU has any more pressing things to turn its attention to, like a couple of wars, rising prices, unemployment, migration crisis etc.

This probably took up 15 minutes of a subcommittee's time, and 30 seconds for a signature.

 

[edwin_m]

The marmalade story was the front page headline of the Express today, in the usual screaming font size. Seems like there's nothing else worth reporting at present.

 

[MotCO]

This probably took up 15 minutes of a subcommittee's time, and 30 seconds for a signature.

It's probably been to 15 sub-committees before being presented to a full committee for consideration by another committee etc etc.

 

[Ashley Hill]

After leaving the EU I thought we would be free of this nonsense. Its all a bit euro-sausage (see Yes Minister)

 

[najaB]

After leaving the EU I thought we would be free of this nonsense.

No. If we want to sell to EU markets we still have to follow their standards. The only difference is that now we have no say in setting them.

 

[EYFanatic]

And in other news... CITV is finally after 40+ years ending broadcasting on ITV on April 10th and will fully transition into ITVX

https://signons-and-signoffs.fandom.com/wiki/CITV_(UK)_Final_Sign-Off

Announcing the news of the CITV's demise this week, a social media account said: “This really means the end of the iconic CITV brand that’s been around for 42 years. Farewell CITV, this time for real."

CITV originally launched more than four decades ago, as Watch IT, before being rebranded as Children's ITV (CITV). It was the afternoon brand of ITV (channel 3) in the late afternoon on weekdays, as youngsters got home from school and were allowed their screen time.

One can only hope that, on the final day, they ditch the normal schedule and play an entire day of classics such as Bernard's Watch, Zzzap, Art Attack, Worst Witch and so on

 

[Cowley]

Let’s not go off into a Brexit discussion please.

There’s another thread for that somewhere and this one is more of a quick moving day to day news story discussion.

Thanks

 

[Topological]

There is some confusion for those of us in Wales today. Should we be taking our cats for a walk? I think the news here for me was that cat walking was becoming a thing:

Link to Article

Is taking your cat for a walk good for them or just good for TikTok?​

Roo has her harness on and her owner Alana Kestle has her lead in hand - the pair are ready to go out for a walk.

Except Roo is a cat and she is far from the only puss heading out for walkies.

TikTok and Instagram have seen an explosion of adventure cat content over the past few years - pets perched on paddleboards, scaling mountains or trotting on beaches.

With more young people living in flats in cities, supervised outdoor time allows their cats to get outdoor enrichment without the risk of being run over, say owners.

Cat expert Emily Blackwell said, while she does not condemn the practice, she also does not recommend it - adding that it depends on the cat and owner to make it a success.

Cats Protection urged would-be owners to choose a cat that can "thrive within the environment and lifestyle you can offer rather than attempting to force the cat to adjust".

I am also very confused why this particular piece is assigned to the Wales section of the BBC. Presumably, represents our cutting-edge position as fashion leaders in pet care?

 

[Gloster]

I am also very confused why this particular piece is assigned to the Wales section of the BBC. Presumably, represents our cutting-edge position as fashion leaders in pet care?

The first woman mentioned comes from Cardiff, the second from Llandudno, the third has Welsh roots and the fourth walks her cats in Wales. More relevant is that the journalist is from BBC Wales, so she wrote it with a Welsh slant, probably as a local filler. It then gets picked up by the main news site on a slow news day, but it’s not worth rewriting what is just a lightweight piece to be more relevant to the rest of the country.

 

[brad465]

This is taking the p:

Mandelson faces £300 fine for urinating in street, council says

Lord Peter Mandelson is set to be fined for public urination but the council cannot find an address.

www.bbc.co.uk

Lord Peter Mandelson is set to be fined up to £300 for public urination in London, however Kensington and Chelsea council is unable to find a suitable address to send the fixed penalty notice to.
The council has told the BBC it is "looking to issue" a fixed penalty notice to Lord Mandelson after the incident in November last year but "just can't find an address".
Lord Mandelson was sacked as the UK's ambassador to the US last year over his ties to the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein and is under criminal investigation over allegations he passed market-sensitive government information to Epstein.
The BBC has approached Lord Mandelson for a response.
The former US ambassador was spotted urinating in a street in Notting Hill, west London after a late night visit to the home of former Conservative chancellor George Osborne.
The Daily Mail, external reported pictures of Lord Mandelson being caught short and relieving himself against a wall in the upmarket London area after leaving Osborne's home.
The council said street enforcement officers were not at the scene of the alleged urination, so could not issue a fine at the time.
But, given the images and public quotes made about the offence, the authority said it was looking to issue a fine.
Without an official address for Lord Mandelson, the fine has not yet been issued.
The fixed penalty notice carries a fine of up to £300, reduced to £150 if paid within two weeks.

 

[Trackman]

The council said street enforcement officers were not at the scene of the alleged urination, so could not issue a fine at the time.
But, given the images and public quotes made about the offence, the authority said it was looking to issue a fine.

I cant see this going any further.