That damn man

[LMS6202]

One thing gets my goat. The geezer who does the ceefax NR reports on the BBC. If this guy talks like he writes he must be the worlds biggest bore. When compiling the report he uses a thousand words when 10 will do. For instance.

"Disruption between Liverpool Street and Norwich, between Liverpool Street and Colchester, between Liverpool Street and Harwich and between Liverpool Street and Southend"

Why the hell can't he say "Disruption between Liverpool Street and Norwich, Harwich, Colchester and Southend"

That gets the message across clearly and briefly with less typing and screen use. The word "brevity" can't be in this guys dictionary.

 

[quarella]

The human input at Ceefax could be minimal. It could be off a live feed from the TOC. The layout could be to avoid the potential misunderstanding that the line goes from Liverpool Street to Southend via Harwich,Colchester and Norwich. While you may know the geography and different routes a lot of people don't. The system used to generate the information whether it is at Ceefax or at TOC level could well be a template which the locations and other essential details are added to and from that a rather wordy message is produced.

 

[Toots]

Why does he do it?,because if he didn't ,then people would complain,they'd misread his reports and blame him when they'd got it wrong because they'd probably skim read it in the first place.In these days of litigation and compensation for the slightest thing,and every word open to interpretation ,you can understand anyone relaying messages like that.

 

[LMS6202]

In these days of litigation and compensation for the slightest thing,and every word open to interpretation ,you can understand anyone relaying messages like that.

That's the trouble with this modern world. All self self self, plus the fact we can no longer say or do anything without some jumped up little prick shouting "racism" or "not safe" or similar. This is all due to the PC twots and the HSE. It is getting like Nazi Germany Can't say that, don't do this. Shouldn't be surprised if the Gestapo comes back either. We had more freedom in the 50's and 60's.
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The human input at Ceefax could be minimal. It could be off a live feed from the TOC. The layout could be to avoid the potential misunderstanding that the line goes from Liverpool Street to Southend via Harwich,Colchester and Norwich. While you may know the geography and different routes a lot of people don't. The system used to generate the information whether it is at Ceefax or at TOC level could well be a template which the locations and other essential details are added to and from that a rather wordy message is produced.

I don't always know the route this guy waffles on about. I just wish he was not so verbose and patronising. He seems to think we are all morons.

 

[Ivo]

This is all true, but regarding the TOC - NXEA in this case [if not for much longer] - they could simply improve or adjust their "feed". It could say something like "Disruption between London Liverpool Street and stations to Southend Victoria, Colchester, Harwich Town and Norwich".

 

[jopsuk]

That's the trouble with this modern world. All self self self, plus the fact we can no longer ... do anything without some jumped up little prick shouting ... "not safe" or similar. This is all due to ... the HSE.

It's astonishing quite how often the HSE are blamed for things which really, really aren't their fault. Which is why they have a Myth of the Month page.

The problem is amublance chasing no-win, no-fee lawyers.

 

[starrymarkb]

It's astonishing quite how often the HSE are blamed for things which really, really aren't their fault. Which is why they have a Myth of the Month page.

The problem is amublance chasing no-win, no-fee lawyers.

That and insurers looking for get outs, if A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z were not done then we won't pay out for your accident... An example being sickness insurance that refused to pay out because the person had said they'd only been to the doctors once for a blood test, but the insurer said that they hadn't reported that they had been back for the results a week later!

 

[Multiple Unit]

I noticed on Sunday it Said, Rail Repalcement Bus Running Between, Liverpool Central & Hunts Cross but it was actually running form Lime St (St.Gorges Hall) and Sandhills and Sandhills to Hunts Cross .

 

[LMS6202]

This is all true, but regarding the TOC - NXEA in this case [if not for much longer] - they could simply improve or adjust their "feed". It could say something like "Disruption between London Liverpool Street and stations to Southend Victoria, Colchester, Harwich Town and Norwich".

Yo see, someone else has got my point. The message as written by IVO does exactly what I would like to see. It states clearly and briefly the relevant points. I.E. a to b, c, d, e. NOT as Mr wordiness says a to b and a to c and a to d and a to e. Waffle.

 

[EM2]

This is all true, but regarding the TOC - NXEA in this case [if not for much longer] - they could simply improve or adjust their "feed". It could say something like "Disruption between London Liverpool Street and stations to Southend Victoria, Colchester, Harwich Town and Norwich".

But what if you want to take a service that terminates at Shenfield, for example? That's a stop on Southend services but the Metro services (all stations Liv St - Shenfield) aren't affected.