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srg

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I knew someone who was a nurse in a similar situation she pleaded guilty, received a fine, and it did not appear on her Enhanced DBS
You are asking the wrong question here.

It may or may not appear on an Enhanced DBS - as I understand it the decision about whether it gets included depends on many factors including the role which you are in.

Irrespective of whether it appears on a nurses DBS, they are required by their regulator to self report (and may well have to report to their employer as a condition of employment):


The nurse you mention may have not reported themselves, but they will get into very big problems in the future if this is ever found out (far worse than just declaring a minor byelaw conviction)
 
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Hello, thank you so much for this I have come up with a draft which is;

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing regarding the fare evasion incident on 2 July 2025, for which I have received a Single Justice Procedure notice. I previously responded to the Intention to Prosecute Letter (ITPL) issued in November 2025 and have attached a copy of my response for your reference. I would like to note that I have evidence of my postal submission to demonstrate that this correspondence was sent in good faith and within the requested timeframe.

I fully acknowledge the incident and sincerely regret the circumstances. I am keen to resolve this matter promptly and am willing to pay the unpaid fares along with any associated investigation costs.

I would be grateful if you could advise whether it is possible to settle this matter administratively, without the need for further court proceedings. I would greatly appreciate your guidance on this at your earliest convenience, given the approaching deadline for the return of the court papers.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Please do let me know if there’s anything I should change.

I also wanted to ask about whether pleading guilty to this offence would result in a criminal conviction or criminal record. I understand that it is a byelaw offence, and I knew someone who was a nurse in a similar situation she pleaded guilty, received a fine, and it did not appear on her Enhanced DBS. Her case involved TfL.This was around 2-3 years ago.

I have also asked ChatGPT, which indicated that it would not appear on a DBS or enhanced DBS, but I am cautious about relying on that entirely. Does anyone know of situations where a byelaw offence like this, when pleaded guilty, has shown up on a DBS or resulted in a criminal record?

I am considering whether to involve a solicitor, but I do not have the funds, so I am trying to weigh my options carefully.

Thank you
In your letter to them make it as easy as possible for whoever reads this to contact you as quickly as possible if they need to so include your postal address, e mail address and mobile phone number at the top of the letter.

Also include any ref numbers they have used or are used on the court papers at the top under the Dear Sir / Madam line

Add a v clear line explaining the urgency

Eg

Dear Sir / Madam

Your Ref(s):

I am writing with an urgent request to settle this matter out of court having just received SJPN papers from the court.

Then continue with the rest of your draft in next paragraph etc

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==

And concentrate on getting this in the post to a post office for next day delivery as early as you can today. Also e mail it but you should do both post and e mail.

The matters to do with the nature if any conviction can be considered AFTER you have got this letter posted off. That is your urgent priority now.
 
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Hello everyone, I just want to say a huge thank you to everyone who helped and advised me in this situation. I couldn’t thank you all enough if it wasn’t for you all I would have probably spent so much money on solicitors etc. I have just received the following email;

Good afternoon,

WITHOUT PREJUDICE

Thank you for your email,

Having considered the points you have raised, GTR are willing to resolve matters in the sum of £62.70, this includes the outstanding fare due.

Payment can be made online using the case reference number on any correspondence we have sent you and by going to: http:// Please ensure that you are selecting the 'out of court settlement' option when making payment.

The fare evasion manager would like to make clear however, that if there are any other reports submitted to this department in relation to fare evasion, that it is highly unlikely that there would be an opportunity to resolve matters outside of court proceedings.

Please note payment will need to be paid before 10am on 16/01/26 to ensure your case is withdrawn from any court proceedings, this is a deadline set to us by the courts that we must adhere to.


Regards,

GTR Prosecutions Team

Also I wanted to ask and confirm does the reports means like in the future or if they find anything else whilst the case is on going.

Thank you
 

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Good news. Obviously get it paid ASAP and keep copies of any confirmation you get, whether that’s a payment confirmation emailed to you or a screenshot of something that comes up on screen when you make the payment, just keep it in case you need it in future.
Also I wanted to ask and confirm does the reports means like in the future or if they find anything else whilst the case is on going.
I’m honestly not entirely sure, but once this incident has been settled they no longer have sufficient evidence to prosecute you for anything - Trainline purchases for example that they might find won’t be sufficient - so I wouldn’t worry about it too much.

It goes without saying but you really cannot continue to evade fares, they are very unlikely to settle a third time.
 

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Hello everyone, I just want to say a huge thank you to everyone who helped and advised me in this situation. I couldn’t thank you all enough if it wasn’t for you all I would have probably spent so much money on solicitors etc. I have just received the following email;

Good afternoon,

WITHOUT PREJUDICE

Thank you for your email,

Having considered the points you have raised, GTR are willing to resolve matters in the sum of £62.70, this includes the outstanding fare due.

Payment can be made online using the case reference number on any correspondence we have sent you and by going to: http:// Please ensure that you are selecting the 'out of court settlement' option when making payment.

The fare evasion manager would like to make clear however, that if there are any other reports submitted to this department in relation to fare evasion, that it is highly unlikely that there would be an opportunity to resolve matters outside of court proceedings.

Please note payment will need to be paid before 10am on 16/01/26 to ensure your case is withdrawn from any court proceedings, this is a deadline set to us by the courts that we must adhere to.


Regards,

GTR Prosecutions Team

Also I wanted to ask and confirm does the reports means like in the future or if they find anything else whilst the case is on going.

Thank you
That looks like the result you were hoping for - which is good. The bit about 'if there are any other reports submitted to this department in relation to fare evasion, that it is highly unlikely that there would be an opportunity to resolve matters outside of court proceedings' is effectively for anything that happens in the future* - so it's really important that you now make sure that you pay the right fare at the right time every time you use a train. There's a small chance that GTR might now come back about previous occasions: if they do, please get back to us before contacting GTR to give us the best chance of helping you out.

*More detailed analysis - previous occurrences are likely to be out of time for prosecution. And I cover the possibility of civil action in the next sentence.
 

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Hello everyone, I just want to say a huge thank you to everyone who helped and advised me in this situation. I couldn’t thank you all enough if it wasn’t for you all I would have probably spent so much money on solicitors etc. I have just received the following email;

Good afternoon,

WITHOUT PREJUDICE

Thank you for your email,

Having considered the points you have raised, GTR are willing to resolve matters in the sum of £62.70, this includes the outstanding fare due.

Payment can be made online using the case reference number on any correspondence we have sent you and by going to: http:// Please ensure that you are selecting the 'out of court settlement' option when making payment.

The fare evasion manager would like to make clear however, that if there are any other reports submitted to this department in relation to fare evasion, that it is highly unlikely that there would be an opportunity to resolve matters outside of court proceedings.

Please note payment will need to be paid before 10am on 16/01/26 to ensure your case is withdrawn from any court proceedings, this is a deadline set to us by the courts that we must adhere to.


Regards,

GTR Prosecutions Team

Also I wanted to ask and confirm does the reports means like in the future or if they find anything else whilst the case is on going.

Thank you
Good news for new year. But it’s clear they have your cards marked. You must stop evading fares if you want to avoid a criminal record.
 
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