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Thameslink emergency stop at Belvedere - man on track

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In Russia they ban alcohol sale between 11:00 PM to next day 8:00 AM and l'm not sure if sale alcohol in morning also is banned in the UK.
Scotland bans alcohol sales 22:00-10:00 (until 12:30 on Sundays IIRC).
 
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In Russia they ban alcohol sale between 11:00 PM to next day 8:00 AM and l'm not sure if sale alcohol in morning also is banned in the UK.
In England you need a Premises License to sell achohol which is granted by the local authority. The Premises License will detail the times alcohol can be sold, it's not usually a blanket 24 hours although it can be.
 

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Saw this the other day, shocking stuff. I imagine the only reason he survived was because he inadvertedly rolled into the under-platform "crawl space" between the running rails and platform edge.
 

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Alcohol doesn't need to be banned. It's just common sense that if you are too drunk to look after yourself don't travel. If you are too drunk and something happens to you as bad as it might be it's tough luck.
 

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Whilst on this topic has anyone travelled on Thameslink around the North Kent Line. The dodgy people walking up and down the aisle harassing people for money. Smoking, Loud music all sorts of anti-social behaviour.
 

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Alcohol doesn't need to be banned. It's just common sense that if you are too drunk to look after yourself don't travel. If you are too drunk and something happens to you as bad as it might be it's tough luck.
Whilst I agree with your first 2 points, there's a lot more people affected by a train impact than just the deceased/injured party. Whatever the cause, it's not something you just shrug off witnessing.
 

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Whilst on this topic has anyone travelled on Thameslink around the North Kent Line. The dodgy people walking up and down the aisle harassing people for money. Smoking, Loud music all sorts of anti-social behaviour.

Not solely TL or solely North Kent either.
 

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Whilst I agree with your first 2 points, there's a lot more people affected by a train impact than just the deceased/injured party. Whatever the cause, it's not something you just shrug off witnessing.
As a rail-spotter and bus-spotter l witnessed at least one person hit and killed by train ( it happened in UK!!) and a few time witnessed body on the road accident scenes in continental. I heard some rail-spotters have witnessed more than 2 times people dead on the line.

Really, witnessing bodies and someone died in front of you such as someone drank too much and froze to death on the street is a part of life, especially for rail-spotters.
 

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Whilst I agree with your first 2 points, there's a lot more people affected by a train impact than just the deceased/injured party. Whatever the cause, it's not something you just shrug off witnessing.
I agree with what you are saying, and I know that it will affect many people. My point was more that no one should be held responsible, neither TOC or anyone else for the sad death or injury of someone in that state except the excessively drunk and uncontrollable individual.

Really, witnessing bodies and someone died in front of you such as someone drank too much and froze to death on the street is a part of life, especially for rail-spotters.
It shouldn't be and I would say most likely isn't expected.

Whilst on this topic has anyone travelled on Thameslink around the North Kent Line. The dodgy people walking up and down the aisle harassing people for money. Smoking, Loud music all sorts of anti-social behaviour.
The same happens on many London metro routes and on the North Kent Line can be found on both Thameslink and Southeastern. Definitely not isolated just to Thameslink.
 

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As a rail-spotter and bus-spotter l witnessed at least one person hit and killed by train ( it happened in UK!!) and a few time witnessed body on the road accident scenes in continental. I heard some rail-spotters have witnessed more than 2 times people dead on the line.

Really, witnessing bodies and someone died in front of you such as someone drank too much and froze to death on the street is a part of life, especially for rail-spotters.
Really!? How is it a part of life?

I have been on and around the railway for much of my life and fortunately, have not witnessed anyone actually being hit by a train. It should not be a part of life as you put it as a person killed affects other people as well. Years ago, I regularly cabbed on EPBs into London and witnessed many foolhardy incidents, including bricks being thrown off bridges etc. That might have been a "part of life" but again, shouldn't have been so. People just don't consider the wider consequences of their actions. For many drivers, "one-unders" have ended their careers.

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Whilst on this topic has anyone travelled on Thameslink around the North Kent Line. The dodgy people walking up and down the aisle harassing people for money. Smoking, Loud music all sorts of anti-social behaviour.
And have you ever travelled in compartment EPB stock around the North Kent line? Nothing new there except now, people have the freedom to walk from one end of the train to the other without having to actually get off
 
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