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Thameslink (Catford Loop) stock movements during Herne Hill/Victoria area blockade

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Mattplans

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The Thameslink route via Catford is closed for engineering works, and the usual diversionary route via Herne Hill is also closed due to the same works. Thameslink has less flexibility to move stock to/from their depots in North London/elsewhere on the network. I've noticed that one ECS movement is diverted via the SEML which TL trains don't usually run on even in disruption/diversion.


These stock movements are registered not under TL, but under PX - europhoenix (anyone know why?). Also as no TL driver sign the route via Grove Park (is this true?) would they need a route instructor from Southeastern to run these movements - up until London Bridge plats of course. These movements are scheduled for everyday of the Herne Hill blockade.

One would've assumed there's no need to move any stock, and there's enough stabling space at Bellingham, Orpington sidings and Sevenoaks gusset sidings. In addition to the ability to berth trains at the aforementioned stations. On weekdays the first south/eastbound service from Blackfriars usually originates from Cricklewood depot, but not on weekends. Why are these necessary? One might have also assumed there would be a surplus of stock at Bellingham/Orpington/Sevenoaks as less trains are necessary to run the reduced service.
 
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The units will still need to be cycled to a depot for scheduled maintenance.
No Thameslink drivers have the required route knowledge via the main line, so would need conducting ( as an aside as these are planned moves, I would guess NR are paying for the moves via a freight/ movement company.)
Any ad hoc failures/ paint jobs (graffiti) will need moving for fixing or cleaning.

Only other way would be to run the ECS to and from Three bridges depot via Redhill and Tonbridge.

There is a daily ECS Three bridges to Cricklewood to get the RLU's swapped over for depot attention. Plus one of the early morning Three bridges to Bedford services then forms a Rainham train to get a fresh unit into Kent.
 

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Very similar move now during the Dartford area blockade.

Thameslink trains are running from Gillingham to Swanley via Sole Street (I don't imagine this is signed by any TL drivers)... then will proceed via the Catford route to Cricklewood depot. Looks like it's running by TL this time around - is it possible that an SE driver is now advising between Rochester Bridge Junction and Swanley and perhaps a driver that signs Catford is taking over from Swanley.
 

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Very similar move now during the Dartford area blockade.

Thameslink trains are running from Gillingham to Swanley via Sole Street (I don't imagine this is signed by any TL drivers)... then will proceed via the Catford route to Cricklewood depot. Looks like it's running by TL this time around - is it possible that an SE driver is now advising between Rochester Bridge Junction and Swanley and perhaps a driver that signs Catford is taking over from Swanley.
I would imagine that if it's a SE driver conducting via Sole Street, they would just continue conducting over the Catford Loop as well, rather than dealing with a crew change in a rather random place for both operators.

Looking at the schedule, the first stop is Bellingham, and then Elephant & Castle, so probably being conducted right through to Elephant & Castle or maybe even Blackfriars.
 
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