Thameslink 12 car - which services?

[itfcfan]

Previous versions of the FCC/Thameslink timetable indicated the number of carriages scheduled for each service (especially prominently when the first 12 car trains had come into service).

I've checked the PDF timetables today (http://www.thameslinkrailway.com/your-journey/timetables/) and no indications are given.

Does anyone know how I can find out which northbound weekday evening peak services between London-Luton/Bedford are 12 carriages? Time of travel from London will be 16:30-17:30.

Thanks in advance for any help,

John

 

[Kite159]

Try this link:
http://www.thameslinkrailway.com/download/5378.1/tl-st-pancras/

Although seems to suggest only 3x 12 carriage services in the evening peak heading northbound from St Pancras?

 

[MCR247]

3 x 12 car electrostar sets sounds right to me

 

[Bald Rick]

12 car northbound are:

1722, 1752 and 1822 of Blackfriars.

Add 10 mins for St Pancras times. All are destination Bedford.

As of 2 weeks ago, the 1752 is 387s.

 

[ValleyLines142]

I believe the following services SHOULD be 12-cars (these are diagram numbers 310, 311 and 312):

1W13 0748 Bedford to Brighton
1W24 1038 Brighton to Bedford
1W35 1324 Bedford to Brighton
1W94 1624 Brighton to Bedford

Today, 387108, 387109 and 387112 are working this diagram.

 

[03_179]

Diagram: 310/311/312
5Y13 07+22 Bedford Jowett Sidings to Bedford
1W13 07.48 Bedford to Brighton
1W24 10.38 Brighton to Bedford
1W35 13.24 Bedford to Brighton
1W94 16.24 Brighton to Bedford
5Y94 19+02 Bedford to Bedford Jowett Sidings


Diagram: 307
5Y05 04+51 Bedford Jowett Sidings to Bedford
1W05 05.18 Bedford to Brighton

1W87 08.00 Brighton to Bedford
SPILT
5W87 10+42 Bedford to Bedford CS
ATTACH
1W37 13.54 Bedford to Brighton
1W96 16.54 Brighton to Bedford
5Y96 19+32 Bedford to Bedford Jowett Sidings

Diagram: 308/309
5Y05 04+51 Bedford Jowett Sidings to Bedford
1W05 05.18 Bedford to Brighton
1W87 08.00 Brighton to Bedford
SPILT
1W25 10.54 Bedford to Brighton
1W36 13.38 Brighton to Bedford
1W49 16.26 Bedford to Brighton
1W60 19.30 Brighton to Bedford
1W73 22.22 Bedford to Brighton
5W73 01+28 Brighton to Lovers Walk

 

[itfcfan]

Thanks for all the info. Good to see the intended configuration for each service is still available on the TL website (as Kite159 pointed out):
http://www.thameslinkrailway.com/your-journey/planning/tl-seats/

When I look at this though, the West Hampstead PDF indicates the 16:43 to Bedford is a 4 car train, but the St Pancras PDF states the 16:36 to Bedford (the same train) is 8 car. I'm pretty sure there's no splitting of any services in the core, so one page is incorrect? Does anyone know how many cars are booked on this service?

Likewise, the Blackfriars page only shows 4 services heading northbound in the evening, presumably due to available space on the page. I hope/expect some seats are available on all northbound trains from Blackfriars though.

Thanks again,

John

 

[hassaanhc]

My limited experience of Blackfriars in the evening peak is that virtually all northbound trains have at least 75-80% of seats available.

 

[John1975]

When I look at this though, the West Hampstead PDF indicates the 16:43 to Bedford is a 4 car train, but the St Pancras PDF states the 16:36 to Bedford (the same train) is 8 car. I'm pretty sure there's no splitting of any services in the core, so one page is incorrect? Does anyone know how many cars are booked on this service?

1G73 booked to be 8/319