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Welshguy1048
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Filmed at Prestatyn, North Wales
16/04/26 - TfW Class 67 - 67016 & 67020 - & DVT 82201 - Holyhead to Crewe C.S. - Empty Coaching Stock move
Welshguy1048
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Evening
Which loco is on 1W96 tonight please ? - and will it be loco or DVT leading from Chester ?
Thank you
Dave
Which loco is on 1W96 tonight please ? - and will it be loco or DVT leading from Chester ?
Thank you
Dave
FrodshamJnct
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67012 but DVT leading
Welshguy1048
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Welshguy1048
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Evening
1. Will 1W96 tonight be loco or DVT leading from Chester please ?
2. Can anyone help with a list of which loco is with which set please ?
Thank you
Dave
1. Will 1W96 tonight be loco or DVT leading from Chester please ?
2. Can anyone help with a list of which loco is with which set please ?
Thank you
Dave
FrodshamJnct
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1W96 is DVT leading.
The rest:
Tuesday 21st April
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D1 - 67012 Set HD07 (Loco MAN end)
1V91 05.27 Holyhead - Cardiff 09.58 
1W57 10.53 Cardiff - Manchester 14.13
1V46 14.30 Manchester - Cardiff 17.44
1W65 18.53 Cardiff - Manchester 22.21
*Set Turns Via WBQ*
(5K65 ECS 22.30 MAN - CRE 23.41)
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D2 - 67010 Set HD02 (Loco CDF end)
1W11 04.33 Cardiff - Manchester 08.13
1V37 08.30 Manchester - Cardiff 11.38
1W59 12.54 Cardiff - Manchester 16.13
1V50 16.30 Manchester - Cardiff 19.46
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D3 - 67008 Set HD06 (Loco MAN end)
(5W13 ECS 04.07 CDF CS - SWA 05.20)
1W13 05.43 Swansea - Manchester 10.13
1V39 10.30 Manchester - Cardiff 13.53
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67022 Set HD04 (Loco MAN end)
1W96 17.22 Cardiff - Holyhead 22.06
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D4 - 67022 Set HD04 (Loco MAN end)
1V31 05.07 Crewe - Cardiff 07.45
1W55 08.53 Cardiff - Manchester 12.13
1V42 12.30 Manchester - Cardiff 15.45 
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67008 Set HD06 (Loco CDF end)
1W63 16.53 Cardiff - Manchester 20.14
*Via Styal*
(5K70 ECS 20.24 MAN - CRE CS 21.09)
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D5 - 67025 Set HD05 (Loco CDF end)
*After Set Turns Via WBQ*
(5V33 ECS 05.13 CRE CS - MAN 06.23)
1V33 06.33 Manchester - Cardiff 09.52 
1W61 14.50 Cardiff - Manchester 18.13
1V62 18.30 Manchester - Cardiff 21.55
Welshguy1048
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@FrodshamJnct
Thank you
Appreciate all your help
What about HD01 and HD03 ?....are they not attached to a loco at the moment ?
Dave
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FrodshamJnct
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Last update was that HD01 was on exam at Crewe and HD03 is still undergoing repairs.
Welshguy1048
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I'm currently moored by the railway/canal bridge at Nantwich where I can see these out the window, very convenient.
The direction of the sets seems pretty much 50:50 - is there a reason for this on specific diagrams or do they just get turned around at random? And if so, why/how? Other LHCS like Norwich/ECML/Chiltern are relatively consistent and I can't think of any alternative routes that would involve a reverse.
The direction of the sets seems pretty much 50:50 - is there a reason for this on specific diagrams or do they just get turned around at random? And if so, why/how? Other LHCS like Norwich/ECML/Chiltern are relatively consistent and I can't think of any alternative routes that would involve a reverse.
37052 xb mr
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2 of the ECS moves are Via
Warrington to & from Crewe & Manchester the sets turn on this,
2 sets all so got diverted last week Crewe - Chester - Wrexham due to points failure at Nantwich
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craigybagel
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On paper the set that runs empty from Manchester via Warrington at night should be the same set that returns the same way in the morning, meaning nothing gets turned. In practice that isn't always feasible. Plus as others have said a diversion via Crewe for the Holyhead services or East Usk for anything going to Cardiff will lead to an unexpected reversal.
The sets are formed in such a way that it doesn't matter which way round they run anyway, although I agree in an ideal world it would be nice for them all to be the same.
None of the other TOCs using fixed formation sets have the same issues that causes the frequency of sets being turned that TfW does.
The sets are formed in such a way that it doesn't matter which way round they run anyway, although I agree in an ideal world it would be nice for them all to be the same.
None of the other TOCs using fixed formation sets have the same issues that causes the frequency of sets being turned that TfW does.
37052 xb mr
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67015 HD01 - in service
67010 HD02 - in service
No loco HD03 - Repairs
67022 HD04 - A Exam
67025 HD05 - in service
67029 HD06 - in service
67008 HD07 - in service
67012 light to Holyhead
67016 Crewe Thunderbird
67028 Cardiff Thunderbird
013, 017 Repairs
014 Exam / Stored
020 Exam
Welshguy1048
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BillStampy
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Stand-by locomotive for Saturday's BLS tour to Swansea.
Welshguy1048
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@BillStampy
Thank you
Railway Herald has 67029 as the allocation for the BLS tour - is that correct ?
Dave
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37052 xb mr
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Yes 67029 HD06
Welshguy1048
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Welshguy1048
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Evening
Will 1W96 tonight be loco or DVT leading from Chester please ?
Thank you
Dave
Will 1W96 tonight be loco or DVT leading from Chester please ?
Thank you
Dave
FrodshamJnct
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Loco 67029
Welshguy1048
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Will be the set used for tomorrows charter to Swansea too.
Realtime Trains | 1Z67 0708 Holyhead to Swansea | 25/04/2026
Real-time train running information for 1Z67 0708 departure from Holyhead to Swansea on 25/04/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Realtime Trains | 1Z68 1600 Swansea to Holyhead | 25/04/2026
Real-time train running information for 1Z68 1600 departure from Swansea to Holyhead on 25/04/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Welshguy1048
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Filmed at Prestatyn, North Wales
25/04/26 - DVT 82227 & TfW Class 67 - 67029 - Holyhead to Swansea - Gerald of Wales / Y Gerallt Gymro Railtour
Topological
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In a very unlikely twist of timing I was actually driving almost parallel with 1W96 on the A40 near Abergavenny. It was just ahead, but near enough to be visible for the section where the two run parallel. I thought I could reply and say it was the loco that was pushing the set at that point. It would have been after @FrodshamJnct post though as there was an accident on the A465 that meant the Abergavenny to Neath journey was much slower.
Now I am hoping all the sets behave over the weekend as I want more than 3 carriages on 1W11 on Monday.
It seems like we are a MK4 down today? The service from Swansea this morning looks to have been a 3 car 197 (197118) with 2 cars added at Crewe. Then the return working to Cardiff is the same 5 car 197. The rest of the diagram is then covered by a fresh pair of 197s from Canton that havent been anywhere else today with 197118 taking over a Maesteg diagram from a Sprinter.
ojb_455850
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67008+HD07 was at Canton earlier, but it is now heading back to Crewe, presumably it isn't out today due to the DVT hitting an obstruction on 1V50 yesterday, therefore meaning that repairs are needed.
BillStampy
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Very pleasant experience onboard the Gerald today with the part-fare journey between Newport and Swansea/Swansea and Cardiff, 029 was doing it's job well, too!
May as well be the bearer of bad news, It wont be a Mk4 Im afraid as the set for that diagram hit an obstruction and sustained some wheelset damage and is now waiting for the wheel lathe at Crewe.
Thats likely to be the case until mid week now.
Topological
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Thank you.
I was resigned to the idea that I would be hit by the curse of the microfleet.
At least the train is quiet for the first hour.