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OrangeJuice said:
How are the sets looking for tomorrow? Are they all planned on running at the moment
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From the Official Class 67 Group on Facebook:

Saturday 17th January
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D1 - 67022 Set HD03 (Loco MAN end)
*After Set Turns Via WBQ*
(5V33 ECS 05.18 CRE CS - MAN 06.19)
1V33 06.27 Manchester - Cardiff 09.50
1W57 10.53 Cardiff - Manchester 14.13
1V46 14.30 Manchester - Cardiff 17.44
1W65 18.53 Cardiff - Manchester 22.20
(5K65 ECS 22.36 MAN - CRE CS 23.22)
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D2 - 67029 Set HD02 (Loco MAN end)
*Via Styal*
(5V37 ECS 07.16 CRE CS - MAN 08.09)
1V37 08.30 Manchester - Cardiff 11.36
1W59 12.53 Cardiff - Manchester 16.13
1V50 16.30 Manchester - Swansea 20.46
(5V50 ECS 21.11 SWA - CDF CS 22.32)
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D3 - 67008 Set HD04 (Loco CDF end)
(5W13 ECS 04.08 CDF CS - SWA 05.10)
1W13 05.39 Swansea - Manchester 10.13
1V39 10.30 Manchester - Cardiff 13.45
1W61 14.53 Cardiff - Manchester 18.13
1V62 18.30 Manchester - Cardiff 21.52
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D4 - 67012 HD01 (Loco MAN end)
1W55 08.54 Cardiff - Manchester 12.13
1V42 12.30 Manchester - Cardiff 15.43
1W63 16.53 Cardiff - Manchester 20.13
*Via Styal*
(5K70 ECS 20.24 MAN - CRE CS 21.08)
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Looks like 2026 is going much better for the Mk4s. After 4 days with missing services, the break for the storm seems to have been a massive reset. Monday was missing the Holyhead departure, which is fair enough because the set could not get there in the first place. Tuesday onwards has been all 5 diagrams fully covered and assuming today goes to plan that will be 5 working days fully covered.

Hope that continues. Have first class on 1W11 on Thursday :)

Meanwhile 1W12 seems to have been a 2-car 197 all week last week. 4-car this morning, but 2-cars has never been adequate on that train between Shrewsbury and Manchester.
 
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Topological said:
Looks like 2026 is going much better for the Mk4s. After 4 days with missing services, the break for the storm seems to have been a massive reset. Monday was missing the Holyhead departure, which is fair enough because the set could not get there in the first place. Tuesday onwards has been all 5 diagrams fully covered and assuming today goes to plan that will be 5 working days fully covered.

Hope that continues. Have first class on 1W11 on Thursday :)

Meanwhile 1W12 seems to have been a 2-car 197 all week last week. 4-car this morning, but 2-cars has never been adequate on that train between Shrewsbury and Manchester.
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Its certainly been a lot better, especially as with exams, repair and LED upgrades its requiring 100% availability at present with 5 from 5.

1W12 was booked a 2 car last week, it then attached to a unit at Cardiff on the return working. Now back to being booked a 5 car throughout although with the current lack of 3 cars, 2x2 deputising isnt unusual.
 
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Thank you, glad to know 1W12 is getting its capacity back.

Hope the full availability continues.

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Its certainly been a lot better, especially as with exams, repair and LED upgrades its requiring 100% availability at present with 5 from 5.

1W12 was booked a 2 car last week, it then attached to a unit at Cardiff on the return working. Now back to being booked a 5 car throughout although with the current lack of 3 cars, 2x2 deputising isnt unusual.
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Good to see a few in first class on 1W11 this morning. There was even a passenger in the carriage when I got on at Pontypool.

Looks like no Mk4 south later though, 1W61 is booked as a 3-car 197 at the moment.
 
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Afternoon

Realtime Trains | 0H01 1232 Chester to Holyhead Car. M.D. | 25/01/2026

Real-time train running information for 0H01 1232 departure from Chester to Holyhead Car. M.D. on 25/01/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Which 67 is this going to Holyhead - Light Loco please ?

And for what reason ?

Thank you

Dave
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It originated at Holyhead

Realtime Trains | 3H00 1021 Holyhead Car. M.D. to Llandudno Junction | 25/01/2026

Real-time train running information for 3H00 1021 departure from Holyhead Car. M.D. to Llandudno Junction on 25/01/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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So if it’s a 67
Can only 67012, Set HD01
Been there since Wednesday nights 1W96,
Set was failed Thursday morning
With wheel set issues, it’s been on
The lathe at Holyhead & loco
Had an A exam.
 
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Multiple infrastructure problems today, with Crewe-Wilmslow out of action, but I see 5V33/1V33 ran Crewe-Manchester via Warrington today both ways.
Unusual for passengers to go this way these days.
Seemingly only to Hereford with flooding beyond.

Realtime Trains | 1V33 0627 Manchester Piccadilly to Cardiff Central | 27/01/2026

Real-time train running information for 1V33 0627 departure from Manchester Piccadilly to Cardiff Central on 27/01/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Do some of these sets run on Sundays? I noticed that the 1140 is this Sunday timed (which is of course no clear indication hence the question!) as being a diesel loco hauling carriages and is a Cardiff starter. The other Cardiff starters that day are all timed as DMUs.

Realtime Trains | 1W56 1140 Cardiff Central to Manchester Piccadilly | 01/02/2026

Real-time train running information for 1W56 1140 departure from Cardiff Central to Manchester Piccadilly on 01/02/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Anyone able to confirm one way or the other?
 
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Do some of these sets run on Sundays? I noticed that the 1140 is this Sunday timed (which is of course no clear indication hence the question!) as being a diesel loco hauling carriages and is a Cardiff starter. The other Cardiff starters that day are all timed as DMUs.

Realtime Trains | 1W56 1140 Cardiff Central to Manchester Piccadilly | 01/02/2026

Real-time train running information for 1W56 1140 departure from Cardiff Central to Manchester Piccadilly on 01/02/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Anyone able to confirm one way or the other?
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Yes theyve run on Sundays for a couple of years.

One starts out in Crewe as the 0832 to Manchester via Styal, then Manchester to Swansea and return

The other does the service linked above but usually from Swansea to Manchester and return.
 
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sd0733 said:
Yes theyve run on Sundays for a couple of years.

One starts out in Crewe as the 0832 to Manchester via Styal, then Manchester to Swansea and return

The other does the service linked above but usually from Swansea to Manchester and return.
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Oh good news! It's a bit out of the way for me so I haven't paid close attention :)

Is there catering in 1st class or is that a Monday - Saturday only thing?
 
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