Jacob Porrett
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Today at Crewe depot (29/5/25)
67025 connected to HD07
67013 light engine
67025 connected to HD07
67013 light engine
Points failure at Shrewsbury67016 set 1, 1W57
Going via Chester to Crewe
Then pine at Crewe for 1V46
Afternoon
Will 1W96 tonight be loco or DVT leading from Chester to Holyhead please ?
Thank you
Dave
Hi, apologies if this has been covered before but what's the catering situation on the mk4 sets on a Sunday please?
Thanks for that, does that mean coffee and biscuits in 1st or purchase anything you want?Buffet/shop will be open and host for first class but no hot food available on Sundays. The morning southbound train has hosts all the way from Manchester to Swansea and back, the other set, that starts at Swansea in the morning, picks catering up at Newport - Manchester and back to Newport.
The 14.55 is 1W60 and is mentioned and is referred to as the "Southbound train which hosts all the way from Manchester to Swansea and back"Also I note you don't mention 1W55 14.55 Swansea Manchester-none at all on that one?
Apologies-didn't read the diagram sheets properly. Thanks for your replyThe 14.55 is 1W60 and is mentioned and is referred to as the "Southbound train which hosts all the way from Manchester to Swansea and back"
They do offer drinks as I've been on the service before.

I diagree with this if im being totally honest. Catering should be available for the entire journey. Otherwise there is no incentive for Swansea-Manchester passengers to upgrade to first class until Newport. Or anyone going from Swansea to Cardiff. They might as well not bother running it as a MK4 between Swansea-Cardiff if a proper first class cant be provided.Buffet/shop will be open and host for first class but no hot food available on Sundays. The morning southbound train has hosts all the way from Manchester to Swansea and back, the other set, that starts at Swansea in the morning, picks catering up at Newport - Manchester and back to Newport.
Not sure I agree with the last sentence.I diagree with this if im being totally honest. Catering should be available for the entire journey. Otherwise there is no incentive for Swansea-Manchester passengers to upgrade to first class until Newport. Or anyone going from Swansea to Cardiff. They might as well not bother running it as a MK4 between Swansea-Cardiff if a proper first class cant be provided.
Me neither! Just can't help feeling Swansea is a bit of an afterthought when it comes to MK4s. Apart from weekends they haven't managed the one service per day in each direction yet.Not sure I agree with the last sentence.
They could declassify
I don't want TfW finding any more reasons to reduce the service from Swansea to Manchester.
67017+HD06 has been failed over the weekend at Holyhead so wont be fit for service tomorrow.
This now means that 1V91 and 1W57 as far as Crewe (where HD01+67016 are planned to swap in) will be substituted along with the whole diagram 1W13 1V39 1W96. That means no Holyhead finish with HD06 (hopefully) starting there on Tuesday.
HD03 is planned out on 1W11 diagram with HD04 starting in 1V31 and HD05 on 1V33.
Morning
Is this a 67 going light loco to Holyhead ?
Realtime Trains | 0Z08 1125 Crewe T.M.D. (E) to Holyhead Car. M.D. | 02/06/2025
Real-time train running information for 0Z08 1125 departure from Crewe T.M.D. (E) to Holyhead Car. M.D. on 02/06/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.www.realtimetrains.co.uk
Dave
@37052 xb mr017 not 016
To summarise, 67008 I believe has ran up to swap around with 017. There will not be a rescue return for the set itself but it looks like 013 is heading up to rescue 017.Afternoon
Is this another 67 - Light Locomotive going to Holyhead tomorrow morning ?
Realtime Trains | 0Z13 0635 Crewe T.M.D. (E) to Holyhead | 03/06/2025
Real-time train running information for 0Z13 0635 departure from Crewe T.M.D. (E) to Holyhead on 03/06/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.www.realtimetrains.co.uk
Dave
@BillStampyTo summarise, 67008 I believe has ran up to swap around with 017. There will not be a rescue return for the set itself but it looks like 013 is heading up to rescue 017.
Long story short, the set itself is fine and 017 needs to be taken back by 013.