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citycat

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Hi. I've tried the search function but nothing comes up.

Does anyone know where I can find TER zonal maps for each region and details about the cost of a pass for each region? I've tried going on the SNCF website and it talks about TER but when you click on a region, no map comes up and a box appears for booking an A to B journey. Nothing about passes. I just want a zonal map that lists all the stations like on a tube map and the extremities of the region.

Could anybody please point me in the right direction. Thanks. Hope you all had a good Christmas.
 
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My understanding is that only a small number of TER zones actually retail passes that cover even part of the area covered.

Each TER area has its own webpage, (some better than others). Whilst some do carry quite a bit of information about services provided, others are very “bare bones”

Good luck.
 

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Hi. I've tried the search function but nothing comes up.

Does anyone know where I can find TER zonal maps for each region and details about the cost of a pass for each region? I've tried going on the SNCF website and it talks about TER but when you click on a region, no map comes up and a box appears for booking an A to B journey. Nothing about passes. I just want a zonal map that lists all the stations like on a tube map and the extremities of the region.

Could anybody please point me in the right direction. Thanks. Hope you all had a good Christmas.
If you are talking about PDF network maps that show each TER network and all of the lines and stations then they can be downloaded here.



SNCF TER Auvergne Rhone Alpes

PDF Maps:

PDF Timetables:

SNCF TER Bourgogne Franche Comte

PDF Maps:

PDF Timetables:

SNCF TER Bretagne

PDF Maps:

PDF Timetables:

SNCF TER Centre Val De Loire

PDF Maps:

PDF Timetables:

SNCF TER Grand Est

PDF Maps:

PDF Timetables:

SNCF TER Hauts De France

PDF Maps:

PDF Timetables:

SNCF TER Normandie

PDF Maps:

PDF Timetables:

SNCF TER Nouvelle Aquitaine

PDF Maps:

PDF Timetables:

SNCF TER Occitanie

PDF Maps:

PDF Timetables:

SNCF TER Pays De La Loire

PDF Maps:

PDF Timetables:

SNCF TER Sud Provence Alpes Cote D Azur

PDF Maps:

PDF Timetables:



But there is not really such a thing as zone maps as the TER networks do not really work based on zones like the London TFL network or anything like that.
 

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For passes, most regions will offer network rovers

My region, Brittany, offers a 2 day and a 7 day pass both for 5 people max, whole region

Of course, the Ile-de-France region pass on Navigo

There is not, as far as I remembrer, any zoning on any regional network. All fares are either flat (mostly on the regional coaches side), km-based or a combination of both.
 

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Many thanks for the links. The ZOU one covering the Cote d’Azur is the sort of thing I’m looking for. Luckily, it’s one of the regions I was thinking about.

My understanding was you could buy a one day pass or multi day passes for each region. Anyway, I shall keep researching. Maybe I’ll just buy a three or four days in one month France only Interrail to cover travelling up from the Benelux. Just trying to work out the cheaper option.
 
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For details of pass costs and validitiy, where offered, you need to look at each region's TER site in @stadler 's list above.

From a thread a couple of years ago, you need to check whether up to date:

Occitanie Rail Tour 2-6 days. Normandie, Bretagne, Pays de la Loire, Centre-Val de Loire TER have 1-3 day 2-5 person rover tickets but some are weekend+public holiday only.E.g. Normandie weekend 2 persons EUR 20, Centre-VdL 3 days 4 persons EUR 60. Most include region-run buses (which may be sparse). Grand Est has about 5 rovers but so perplexing you need to start with the precise journeys to choose.

There are other summer-only, e.g. PACA has several 1 / 3 / 7 / 14 day rovers for 1-2 départements or the whole region but not particularly cheap.

For each region, go to the relevant ter.sncf.com but check both 'Tarifs' and 'Bon Plans' as the cheap fares and rovers can be in either place.

You also need to look at timetables to see whether a pass is worthwhile for you. E.g. in Brittany Rennes - Saint-Briec - Brest half the service is TGVs.

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My understanding was you could buy a one day pass or multi day passes for each region.
Definitely not the case. Some regions only. Each one that exists has different parameters: number of days, how many persons, which days of the week or times of year it is valid. One, can't remember which, requires you to 'book' each train you use. And so on.
 
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For details of pass costs and validitiy, where offered, you need to look at each region's TER site in @stadler 's list above.

From a thread a couple of years ago, you need to check whether up to date:

Occitanie Rail Tour 2-6 days. Normandie, Bretagne, Pays de la Loire, Centre-Val de Loire TER have 1-3 day 2-5 person rover tickets but some are weekend+public holiday only.E.g. Normandie weekend 2 persons EUR 20, Centre-VdL 3 days 4 persons EUR 60. Most include region-run buses (which may be sparse). Grand Est has about 5 rovers but so perplexing you need to start with the precise journeys to choose.

There are other summer-only, e.g. PACA has several 1 / 3 / 7 / 14 day rovers for 1-2 départements or the whole region but not particularly cheap.

For each region, go to the relevant ter.sncf.com but check both 'Tarifs' and 'Bon Plans' as the cheap fares and rovers can be in either place.

You also need to look at timetables to see whether a pass is worthwhile for you. E.g. in Brittany Rennes - Saint-Briec - Brest half the service is TGVs.

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Definitely not the case. Some regions only. Each one that exists has different parameters: number of days, how many persons, which days of the week or times of year it is valid. One, can't remember which, requires you to 'book' each train you use. And so on.
Thanks for the info.
 

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The basics have been told above. DO note: If a region says from 2-5 persons, that does mean, NO single persons, even if paying the lowest priced for 2! And some regions change their offer quite often, others stick to it long time, except perhaps the occasional hike in prices.
Also quite recently, the last weeks, I got several various mails from SNCF or regions, they are about to merge all different former www-sites into 1 general one. I myself was looking for some very cheap ´Shock´ prices for singles, but these seem to have vanished from that site.
Midi-Pyrenees/now Occitanie had an offer that was quite good: MIN 2 days, till 5 or 7?- for 10€ per day, but only available online or via their app, as its existence was flatly denied to me when asking for it at the ticket counter in Toulouse. It may hence also mean, that how you acquire the ticket may be limited to specific means, besides the variations already explained.
 

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To add, most if not all promo tickets regions sell will be train-specific only, whereas normal ticket in all regions are not train specific
 

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Thanks for the replies. I think I will probably get the three days in one month France only Interrail for 149 euros (60+).

I will then maybe take a cheap Flixbus from NL to Ghent in Spring, ride the coastal tramway towards the French border, and then take it from there.

My ultimate aim is to recreate my childhood travels when I would go on holiday every year with my mum and dad to Juan les Pins in the South of France or to Diano Marina on the Italian Rivera. We would normally start at London Victoria and take the 10:33 boat train to Dover Marine which I think was the 2nd class duplicate service of the Golden Arrow.

I want to travel from Calais Ville to Ventimiglia via Paris using the classic route and avoiding TGV’s on the high speed lines if possible. Then travel around the Cote d’Azur in a ‘Bill Bryson’ style visiting all the resorts and small towns of my childhood memories. Aix en Provence, Arles, St Raphael, amongst others. And of course Juan les Pins.

Hopefully, the old classic route can still be done these days using TER’s and Intercities.
 

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The basics have been told above. DO note: If a region says from 2-5 persons, that does mean, NO single persons, even if paying the lowest priced for 2! And some regions change their offer quite often, others stick to it long time, except perhaps the occasional hike in prices.
Also quite recently, the last weeks, I got several various mails from SNCF or regions, they are about to merge all different former www-sites into 1 general one. I myself was looking for some very cheap ´Shock´ prices for singles, but these seem to have vanished from that site.
Midi-Pyrenees/now Occitanie had an offer that was quite good: MIN 2 days, till 5 or 7?- for 10€ per day, but only available online or via their app, as its existence was flatly denied to me when asking for it at the ticket counter in Toulouse. It may hence also mean, that how you acquire the ticket may be limited to specific means, besides the variations already explained.
That Occitaine pass looks great value for a massive area; was thinking of using it this May with my wife (health allowing). Anyone on here used it; any reports?

 

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That Occitaine pass looks great value for a massive area; was thinking of using it this May with my wife (health allowing). Anyone on here used it; any reports?

I bought a two day Occitanie pass in July for 20€.
Bought on my phone from the Occitanie website.
Day one I used it from Toulouse to Perpignan on on day two Perpignan to Cerbère and back. Excellent value.

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==

For details of pass costs and validitiy, where offered, you need to look at each region's TER site in @stadler 's list above.

From a thread a couple of years ago, you need to check whether up to date:

Occitanie Rail Tour 2-6 days. Normandie, Bretagne, Pays de la Loire, Centre-Val de Loire TER have 1-3 day 2-5 person rover tickets but some are weekend+public holiday only.E.g. Normandie weekend 2 persons EUR 20, Centre-VdL 3 days 4 persons EUR 60. Most include region-run buses (which may be sparse). Grand Est has about 5 rovers but so perplexing you need to start with the precise journeys to choose.

There are other summer-only, e.g. PACA has several 1 / 3 / 7 / 14 day rovers for 1-2 départements or the whole region but not particularly cheap.

For each region, go to the relevant ter.sncf.com but check both 'Tarifs' and 'Bon Plans' as the cheap fares and rovers can be in either place.

You also need to look at timetables to see whether a pass is worthwhile for you. E.g. in Brittany Rennes - Saint-Briec - Brest half the service is TGVs.

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==


Definitely not the case. Some regions only. Each one that exists has different parameters: number of days, how many persons, which days of the week or times of year it is valid. One, can't remember which, requires you to 'book' each train you use. And so on.
The PACA region passes are now available all year round.
Day tickets range from 20€ per department to 30€ for two.
A three day ticket for the whole region is 60€ and a 7 day ticket 100€.
 
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Hopefully, the old classic route can still be done these days using TER’s and Intercities.

There are through services between Calais Ville and Paris Nord via Amiens again, after a long period of only running from Boulogne. It would then be TER Paris Bercy to Lyon (P.D.) via Dijon. There is a lot of daytime engineering work on the classic line to Dijon at the moment, so be aware that the timetable is currently very 'thin'. TER then to Marseille, and then 'fast' TER to Cannes, changing there for Juan les Pins.

Sadly no longer any through cars Calais Maritime to Ventimiglia via the Petite Ceinture in Paris!
 

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There are through services between Calais Ville and Paris Nord via Amiens again, after a long period of only running from Boulogne. It would then be TER Paris Bercy to Lyon (P.D.) via Dijon. There is a lot of daytime engineering work on the classic line to Dijon at the moment, so be aware that the timetable is currently very 'thin'. TER then to Marseille, and then 'fast' TER to Cannes, changing there for Juan les Pins.

Sadly no longer any through cars Calais Maritime to Ventimiglia via the Petite Ceinture in Paris!
That was one of my favorite parts of the journey. Arriving into the Gare du Nord from Calais and watching a BB66000? hook up to the through couchette cars. Then hanging out of the window as we screeched around the Petite Ceinture, passing through obscure parts of Paris and looking into cosy apartment windows as the occupants had their dinner.

After arrival at the Gare de Lyon, while the cars were shunted over the pointwork to the main train, my dad and I would troop up to the G d L station hall to buy a Parisian hotdog. A quarter French bread stick impaled on a large spike, while a hotdog slathered in ketchup and mustard was slid expertly into the hole caused by the spike.

We would then walk to the platform housing the main Paris to Ventimiglia train to find our shunted couchette car with my mum on board, leaning out of the window anxiously looking out for us for fear we might get left behind.

The train, the named Cote d'Azur express departed at 20:42, and the all sleeping car CIWL Blue train departed from the adjoining platform at 20:45. I would usually hang out of the window leaving Paris until we passed the depot and marshalling yard at Villeneuve St Georges, at which point I would climb into my couchette.

I would always ask my dad to book me the bottom bunk so that I could raise the blind slightly and watch the night time operation when we called at Dijon Ville, Lyon Perrache, and maybe Avignon if I woke up, which I usually did when hearing the sound of those brake blocks go on.

The Blue train would later overtake us as we went into Marseille St Charles and reversed, while the Blue train took the direct route via Marseille Blancarde.

The next morning, I would again be hanging out of the corridor window after Toulon, getting my first views of the Mediterranean sea and watching our arrival into St Raphael, Cannes, and finally Juan les Pins, and watching the train conductor at work walking along the platform and giving the right away to the driver before climbing on board as the train started to pull away. I often thought what a cool job he had, looking all smart in his Chef du Train uniform and peaked cap, and getting to work the coastal route every day between Marseille and Nice or Ventimiglia. I wanted a job like that.

As it happens, many years later I got to wear that same style of smart uniform and peaked cap, but I was a train guard for GNER, working HST’s and 225’s between London and Leeds or Newcastle. Not such a scenic or glamorous route card as the Cote d'Azur. However, I never forgot those smart SNCF images of my childhood and tried to adopt that smart image with my own uniform style. Unfortunately, I never got to board a moving train in that same cool style after giving two on the buzzer. Also, I got to work the White Rose class 373 Eurostar sets up to Leeds, so I did get to experience the SNCF style with GNER for a few years.

Good memories.

Unfortunately, my son has no interest in trains at all. Not surprising when it's all units these days, especially on the Dutch NS. Once you've seen one Sprinter or VIRM, you've seen them all. Ah well, at least I still have my memories of the seventies SNCF.
 
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