Talent pool duration

[ComUtoR]

I suppose the “no” is either failing the selection or failing the DMI.

Even failing the DMI can get you back in the talent pool. We have Yes, No, and Reapply in 6 months. But yes, outright failure is the real 'no'

This is more like being ghosted than being told “no”, but the effect is the same!

It's also an interesting way to see the really lazy applicants. I'm stunned people simply 'wait' in the pools. Its very typical of modern culture where people can't accept being told no and want everything to come to them.

Almost none of our latest cohort of trainees even sniffed a talent pool.

I'm sure you see the posts on this forum. The sheer lack of non technical skills can be a bit shocking. It's no wonder some people live in. 'talent' pool

 

[387star]

I'm not sure where the phrase actually came from. It seemed to pop into existence quite suddenly a few years ago. They exist because the railway recruitment system doesn't seem to have a 'no' option.

Once you are through the sift you almost guaranteed a place in a 'talent pool'. Failure rates in the psychometric stage means that you need a large pool of people to feed into the first grinder. Those successful applicants have their value increased. You can't just throw them away. So again, they sit in a pool somewhere. Not forgetting applicants often just use a TOC to get a psychometric pass and have multiple applications on the go.

The DMI process can also cause more issues. Ours has a tick box where those who don't make the DMI still get put in a pool to re-apply on 6 months.

Rail recruitment is pretty ruthless with its failures but if you have a pass it's valid for a long time and you still have plenty of chances to get a job.

Most other jobs just tell you "No" and then bin you application.

Don't forget that even if you reset the campaign, hundreds apply every time. If we told everyone with a pass 'no' recruitment will probably grind to an absolute halt.

About ten years ago they became common
They create a lot of resentment and even lead to depression/low morale in the case of internals

 

[Judgedools]

When I had my DMI I did ask the interviewer the question 'If I am successful at this interview and placed in a talent pool, what are the chances of being offered a job?'
The answer I received was 'Anyone ever put into a talent pool up to now has been offered a position.' Covid may have changed a few things but surely you wouldn't put people through all the testing and pay out for it all, tell people you're in a talent pool, then just leave them there until the time limits up, would they.

 

[43066]

Even failing the DMI can get you back in the talent pool. We have Yes, No, and Reapply in 6 months. But yes, outright failure is the real 'no'

As on the other thread, are we definitely talking about the same thing here? Talent pool (as I understand it) means those who have passed everything bar the medical.

It's also an interesting way to see the really lazy applicants. I'm stunned people simply 'wait' in the pools. Its very typical of modern culture where people can't accept being told no and want everything to come to them.

Almost none of our latest cohort of trainees even sniffed a talent pool.

I tend to agree, there is a strong sense of entitlement. To a large extent you make your own luck by being proactive and performing well in the assessments. Many are only in talent pools for a brief period, so there must be something distinguishing those who are taken forward.

I'm sure you see the posts on this forum. The sheer lack of non technical skills can be a bit shocking. It's no wonder some people live in. 'talent' pool

Also agree. I’m always staggered by the number of people who seem to think it’s too much to ask to wear a suit to the selection process for jobs paying £70k. There can’t be many industries where that would be the case, most people would take that kind of thing as read!

 

[Aviator88]

Also agree. I’m always staggered by the number of people who seem to think it’s too much to ask to wear a suit to the selection process for jobs paying £70k. There can’t be many industries where that would be the case, most people would take that kind of thing as read!

This has caused me some confusion also. Not to mention, it really pays to be your 'best you' at each and every assessment day/interview - there's no telling what other boxes a particular TOC/FOC has asked the OPC to tick on their behalf.

 

[L401CJF]

I'm sure you see the posts on this forum. The sheer lack of non technical skills can be a bit shocking. It's no wonder some people live in. 'talent' pool

I agree with this comment. The amount of people who come to this forum and post a new thread asking for interview answers or want babysitting through OPC assessments is quite shocking considering they're applying for highly responsible role which involves so many personal skills.

The worst bit is they get miffed when they don't progress or land a position, but can't even be bothered to search the forum first despite the thousands of threads containing the exact same question which has been asked so many times.

Can't be bothered to search a forum or wear a suit, but apparently wouldn't have an issue dealing with a high pressure emergency situation etc.

Oh well, Rant over!