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SWR: Portsmouth to Waterloo

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moley

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SWR's mixing desk website is willing to sell me a 1st day return for tomorrow (Tues 28) leaving on the 0645 direct service arriving 0831 and back on the 1900 service from Waterloo.

Its willing to sell me a weekend first super offpeak travel card and says its valid. National Rail website confirms the same.

Is this right. Can I rely on a print-out of the train website if a guard challenges me?
 
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Looks as though the restrictions have been coded shonkily.

Whilst you can form a contract to travel on those trains and produce evidence of that from the website when challenged by the guard and the gateline attendants, you will be likely to experience a lot of trouble and be issued or threatened with Penalty Fares, excess fares, and/or prosecution.

The correct course of action for a staff member would be to withdraw the ticket for investigation and issue a TIR and zero fare ticket to complete your journey.
 

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SWR's mixing desk website is willing to sell me a 1st day return for tomorrow (Tues 28) leaving on the 0645 direct service arriving 0831 and back on the 1900 service from Waterloo.

Its willing to sell me a weekend first super offpeak travel card and says its valid. National Rail website confirms the same.

Is this right. Can I rely on a print-out of the train website if a guard challenges me?
If you buy it in conjunction with that itinerary then it must be honoured, as a binding contract has been formed.

As has been suggested, it is possible you will experience difficulties using the ticket in line with the contractual validity you have been promised, but that does not remove the contractual validity.

You should give your name and address if any member of staff can be considered to have reasonable grounds to suspect a ticketing irregularity. IMO if you present an itinerary from SWR's website, in line with which you are travelling, then that is not grounds to suspect such an irregularity.

I would not pay any excess demanded, unless you are unable to access the train otherwise. In that case, excess the ticket in line with what you are told is required, and keep the excess ticket and the receipt as evidence of SWR's breach of contract.

Equally I would not pay any Penalty Fare - a Penalty Fare is totally inappropriate in these circumstances.
 

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Absolutely valid if you buy it in conjunction with an itinerary.

No-one has any right to charge you a penny more, but as others say this might happen in practice. If it does, you are entitled to claim a refund.

A good retailer will back you up in the event that the company does charge an excess and then refuses to refund it, as should Transport Focus.
 

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A message was sent out to guards yesterday informing them to accept Weekend Super Off Peak tickets, as they had been available for purchase when they shouldn't have been. When it comes to the barriers, I don't believe they are clever enough to know to reject Weekend Super Off Peak tickets on Weekdays.
 

moley

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Take the point re Weekend tickets on weekdays but thought the Waterloo/TfL barriers rejected off peak used too early. It used to be the case that you could get through Waterloo barriers with a Super Off Peak ticket between 16:00 and 19:00 which made getting a 19:01 train difficult!
 
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