SWR Class 458 to be retained

[ebennett07]

The only news I have at the moment is the 458s will be used on WAT-POO services like the 442s did as well. This was said by a Bournemouth signaller.

https://twitter.com/shunterinred/status/1690853540388818944?t=_1qj6J2Orm1WcWosuPx1nw&s=19

 

[pompeyfan]

The only news I have at the moment is the 458s will be used on WAT-POO services like the 442s did as well. This was said by a Bournemouth signaller.

https://twitter.com/shunterinred/status/1690853540388818944?t=_1qj6J2Orm1WcWosuPx1nw&s=19

The official plan is they will do similar diagrams to what the 442s done pre-covid, however I would be seriously surprised if they ever actually work those services (or carry any passengers for SWR).

 

[BenSpiers5852]

The only news I have at the moment is the 458s will be used on WAT-POO services like the 442s did as well. This was said by a Bournemouth signaller.

https://twitter.com/shunterinred/status/1690853540388818944?t=_1qj6J2Orm1WcWosuPx1nw&s=19

it’s news to me that im a signaller, thanks for the promotion

 

[Rogersbmx]

Both of the refurbished units on depot this week. Lots going on in “the background”, few things to sort before mainline testing can begin. Watch this space

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458523 is being prepared for transport to Widnes from Bournemouth.

 

[spark001uk]

458523 is being prepared for transport to Widnes from Bournemouth.

Did this unit not go to Widnes a few weeks back?

 

[The_Train]

Did this unit not go to Widnes a few weeks back?

My records suggest it moved at the start of August

 

[WarrenTManager]

Did this unit not go to Widnes a few weeks back?

Yes it did.

8525 went to Bournemouth on the 25th. That's the next one to go up.

 

[Nammer]

Will 8525 be the 5th unit to pass through Widnes?

 

[swr444]

Yes it did.

8525 went to Bournemouth on the 25th. That's the next one to go up.

seems mad we are sending 458s to be refurbished and 707s to SE, with no current replacements

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

seems mad we are sending 458s to be refurbished and 707s to SE, with no current replacements

About time the 707s went where they’re intended. It’s absolutely not Southeastern’s problem that SWR ordered a fleet of apparently and allegedly unacceptable trains, and they’ve been more than generous as it is with their time, not that it was probably their decision to keep the last 12 for longer.

 

[swr444]

About time the 707s went where they’re intended. It’s absolutely not Southeastern’s problem that SWR ordered a fleet of apparently and allegedly unacceptable trains, and they’ve been more than generous as it is with their time, not that it was probably their decision to keep the last 12 for longer.

It was an agreement between the MD's of SE and SWR to allow them to keep them longer.

 

[Juniper Driver]

Where are the new units?
I haven't had a sniff of them yet...

 

[cactustwirly]

About time the 707s went where they’re intended. It’s absolutely not Southeastern’s problem that SWR ordered a fleet of apparently and allegedly unacceptable trains, and they’ve been more than generous as it is with their time, not that it was probably their decision to keep the last 12 for longer.

There is also the argument that SE don't need the 707s immediately SWR have a greater need for them

 

[Siemens Staines]

Presumably this will be 458525 being moved to Widnes;

5Q72 1926 Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D to Wembley Receptions 1-7

Realtime Trains | 5Q72 1926 Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D to Wembley Receptions 1-7 | 30/08/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Q72 1926 departure from Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D to Wembley Receptions 1-7 on 30/08/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

5Q70 2201 Wembley Receptions 1-7 to Widnes Transport Tech

Realtime Trains | 5Q70 2201 Wembley Receptions 1-7 to Widnes Transport Tech | 31/08/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Q70 2201 departure from Wembley Receptions 1-7 to Widnes Transport Tech on 31/08/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[WarrenTManager]

Presumably this will be 458525 being moved to Widnes;

5Q72 1926 Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D to Wembley Receptions 1-7

Realtime Trains | 5Q72 1926 Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D to Wembley Receptions 1-7 | 30/08/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Q72 1926 departure from Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D to Wembley Receptions 1-7 on 30/08/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

5Q70 2201 Wembley Receptions 1-7 to Widnes Transport Tech

Realtime Trains | 5Q70 2201 Wembley Receptions 1-7 to Widnes Transport Tech | 31/08/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Q70 2201 departure from Wembley Receptions 1-7 to Widnes Transport Tech on 31/08/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

8525 went past the Park at 2353. A 47/7 leading, 57305 tailing. A few bushes in the way between New Sidings and the main line hence the UID 47 and no photo.

 

[Big Jumby 74]

A few bushes in the way between New Sidings and the main line

Noticed that a while ago. What a change from past times. Won't be able to see the shed at all from passing trains before long.......wonder if that embankment comes under the Depot or NR when it comes to vegetation? Suppose as long as they're not interfering with activity/sight lines on either 1 siding or UMF, then so be it - am all for encouraging tree growth where possible..

 

[SansHache]

458405 (3rd refurbished unit) awaiting collection at Alstom's Widnes Technology Centre on 31st August 2023.

 

[1nvicible]

458405 departed Widnes late yesterday afternoon. The GBRf set was there all day so I presume it dropped off set 5 for refurb?

 

[The_Train]

458405 departed Widnes late yesterday afternoon. The GBRf set was there all day so I presume it dropped off set 5 for refurb?

Where has it been moved to please?

 

[spark001uk]

Where has it been moved to please?

I'm not sure if it has been, the only departure I can see for that afternoon was 0M67 - 47749 heading off to Leicester LIP

 

[The_Train]

I'm not sure if it has been, the only departure I can see for that afternoon was 0M67 - 47749 heading off to Leicester LIP

Ah right, wondered why I'd not seen pics of it anywhere - it's usually a popular one for people to snap

 

[Siemens Staines]

There are some movements shown for later today / tomorrow;

5Z70 1629 Leicester L.I.P. to Widnes Transport Tech

Realtime Trains | 5Z70 1629 Leicester L.I.P. to Widnes Transport Tech | 04/09/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Z70 1629 departure from Leicester L.I.P. to Widnes Transport Tech on 04/09/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

5Q62 2111 Widnes Transport Tech to Wembley Receptions 1-7

Realtime Trains | 5Q62 2111 Widnes Transport Tech to Wembley Receptions 1-7 | 04/09/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Q62 2111 departure from Widnes Transport Tech to Wembley Receptions 1-7 on 04/09/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

5X65 1435 Wembley Receptions 1-7 to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D

Realtime Trains | 5X65 1435 Wembley Receptions 1-7 to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D | 05/09/2023

Real-time train running information for 5X65 1435 departure from Wembley Receptions 1-7 to Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D on 05/09/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

5Z50 2121 Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D to Eastleigh East Yard

Realtime Trains | 5Z50 2121 Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D to Eastleigh East Yard | 05/09/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Z50 2121 departure from Bournemouth T&R.S.M.D to Eastleigh East Yard on 05/09/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[samrammstein]

57305, barriers and an 458405 (apparently) are currently visible at Widnes. (1600)

 

[spark001uk]

Loco now on it's way to Widnes to join it.

0F62 1617 Leicester L.I.P. to Widnes Transport Tech

Realtime Trains | 0F62 1617 Leicester L.I.P. to Widnes Transport Tech | 04/09/2023

Real-time train running information for 0F62 1617 departure from Leicester L.I.P. to Widnes Transport Tech on 04/09/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[Western Sunset]

Any ID on loco?

 

[spark001uk]

Any ID on loco?

47749 at a guess.

 

[Western Sunset]

47749 at a guess.

Ta

 

[Goldfish62]

57305, barriers and an 458405 (apparently) are currently visible at Widnes. (1600)

It's just passed through Staines.

 

[Western Sunset]

Safely tucked-up at BM; here it is reversing at Branksome an hour or so ago.

 

[spark001uk]

Vid of it passing me earlier.