Super Off Peak validity problems

[Techniquest]

Hi all,

I recently found a nice and cheap fare which is perfectly for me to do a bit of localised cranking, however I'm having a problem finding trains it's valid for!

The fare in question is a Hereford to Moreton-in-Marsh Super Off Peak Day Return. As far as I'm aware, this should be valid around lunchtime on weekdays and valid all day on weekends. Certainly appears to be valid as I suspect on weekends, but I had been hoping to get one of these tomorrow for a nice and cheap afternoon out.

However, having looked this evening on NXEC's Mixing Deck I find that the first train it's valid on for tomorrow is the 1950 off Hereford! Very odd that sounds to me. Seems to be valid earlier coming back though.

I only found this fare by accident last Friday night when randomly looking it up to get into position for an Oxfordshire Day Ranger. You can imagine my surprise when I saw the fare! Decided to book it online early Saturday morning to pick up from Hereford as I doubted the ticket machine would have it. Surprise, surprise, when I looked at 0825 last Saturday morning I saw no sign of it.

So I guess my question is: Where do I find the validity times for this fare? Indeed, for any Super Off Peak Day Return? I'm thinking of getting a LM Only SOPR from Birmingham to London next week, but I'd like to be sure what times I'm valid on with such a fare. If there's somewhere where I can check, or if someone can find out for me (both of the Super Off Peak fares mentioned here if possible, if not just the Hereford one), that would be extremely appreciated.

All help gratefully received.

Kind regards,

Techniquest

 

[Pumbaa]

Any time at weekends:

http://www.londonmidland.com/tickets-and-fares/tickets-and-fares/off-peak-tickets/#super

No idea bout the rest I'm afraid.

 

[John @ home]

Hereford to Moreton-in-Marsh Super Off Peak Day Return.

This one is a FGW product which would be more accurately described as an Evening Return.

Origin: HEREFORD
Destination: MORETON IN MARSH
Route: 00000 - ANY PERMITTED
C1R - SUP OFFPK DAY R GWR
Adult fare:£ 3.50
Standard Class Return
Restriction : L7
AVAILABILITY: The ticket is available every day of the week and is priced for single or return journeys.
Valid between: Moreton-in-Marsh, Evesham, Hereford, Great Malvern, Droitwich Spa, Stourbridge Junction and Bromsgrove.
FARES:
There are two fares available:
C1R £3.50 - 1 Adult
C2R £7.00 - 2 Adults and up to 3 children.

Outward Travel
Valid after 1800 hours only with the following exceptions:
Moreton-in-Marsh : any train at or later then 1715.
Honeybourne : any train at or later then 1725.
Evesham : any train at or later then 1735.
Pershore : any train at or later then 1745.

Return Travel
By any train.

I'm thinking of getting a LM Only SOPR from Birmingham to London next week

Origin: BIRMINGHAM STNS
Destination: LONDON TERMINALS
Route: 00042 - LON MIDLAND ONLY
OPR - SUPER OFFPEAK R LMR
Adult fare:£ 15.00
Standard Class Return
Restriction : LK
Break of journey is not permitted except to change trains at an intermediate
station or to access station facilities.

MONDAYS to FRIDAYS: Not valid for travel on London Midland services timed to ARRIVE London Terminals before 1300.
Not valid for travel on northbound London Midland services timed to DEPART London Terminals or any other station, before 1030.
Not valid for travel on London Midland services timed to DEPART any station between 1630 and 1930 in either direction unless a connecting service is being used to complete a journey begun at a valid time.

SATURDAYS, SUNDAYS and BANK HOLIDAYS:
By any London Midland train.

John

 

[tony_mac]

Not valid for travel on London Midland services timed to DEPART any station between 1630 and 1930 in either direction unless a connecting service is being used to complete a journey begun at a valid time.

Just a minor thing to add - none of the web retailers get that restriction entirely correct; they all disallow journeys which have a change of train between 1630 and 1930. (e.g. 15:46 from Euston change at Rugby 17:16 should be allowed, but it is not given as an option).

 

[Techniquest]

Thanks for the replies chaps, most appreciated.

Those restrictions don't appear to explain how it's valid on seemingly all services on weekends with the FGW one. Surprised too there's not a SOPDR for use beyond Moreton-in-Marsh to Oxford, Reading or Paddington. No idea why Y-P discount doesn't appear to be available on it either (although it's a damn good bargain fare anyway!), or why it didn't appear on the ticket machine on Saturday (as it is valid at 0825 according to the FGW journey planner).

No matter, thanks for the replies like I say chaps!