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Super off peak return (London Bridge)

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leep90

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Hi, looking at some ticketing options for London, with the super off peak return it states about not being valid for services arriving before 10:45 at London Bridge, if the train is booked to arrive at 10:45 would this be a valid ticket or not? Thanks in advance
 
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Hi, looking at some ticketing options for London, with the super off peak return it states about not being valid for services arriving before 10:45 at London Bridge, if the train is booked to arrive at 10:45 would this be a valid ticket or not? Thanks in advance
Yes, a valid ticket for a 10:45 public timetable arrival time.
Restriction PB I guess
Outward Travel​
Restricted Days:
Monday to Friday

Mondays to Fridays
Not valid on trains timed to into arrive London Terminals before 10:45.
Not valid on trains timed to pass through London Bridge after 04:29 or before 10:45, regardless of where you join or leave the service.
eg 9S18 09:44 Brighton-Cambridge
 
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leep90

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Yes, a valid ticket for a 10:45 public timetable arrival time.
Restriction PB I guess

eg 9S18 09:44 Brighton-Cambridge
Thanks

Yes the code is PB. Just seen to be getting mixed results for looking for tickets.

For example I can book Arundel to London Victoria (arr 10:45) and it gives the super off peak return option. However if I try to go to London Bridge changing to a TL service booked to arrive at 10:45 no such option is available.

Is it that it must be one train or the same operator although they are both GTR.

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drueberflug

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Yes the code is PB. Just seen to be getting mixed results for looking for tickets.

For example I can book Arundel to London Victoria (arr 10:45) and it gives the super off peak return option. However if I try to go to London Bridge changing to a TL service booked to arrive at 10:45 no such option is available.

Is it that it must be one train or the same operator although they are both GTR.
GTR apparently did not bother creating any Super Off-Peak Day Return fare between Arundel and London Bridge, especially none with restriction code PB.
What this means for you is that you are required to pay the additional fare to London Bridge.

Also, be advised that split ticketing might be cheaper for your journey. Our forum's ticket page will happily offer you valid split tickets as well as an accompanying itinerary; and charges no booking fee on regular tickets.
(UPDATE: I checked whether any useful split fares are available, this is not the case - just go with the Super Off-Peak Day Travelcard with restriction code PB for £33.30)

RETURN FARES i
Route
NOT UNDERGROUND​
Validity
ON DATE SHOWN​
Adult
£76.40
Child
£38.20​
Ticket issued to:​
LONDON THAMESLNK​
Fare Setter: SOUTHERN​
Route
ANY PERMITTED​
Validity
ON DATE SHOWN​
Adult
£76.40
Child
£38.20​
Ticket issued to:​
LONDON TERMINALS​
Fare Setter: SOUTHERN​
Route
NOT UNDERGROUND​
Validity
AS ADVERTISED
Restrictions
4B OFF-PEAK​
Adult
£48.60
Child
£24.30​
◊​
Outward & Return:​
NOT VALID ON CERTAIN TRAINS - PLEASE ENQUIRE​

Ticket issued to:​
LONDON THAMESLNK​
Fare Setter: SOUTHERN​
Route
ANY PERMITTED​
Validity
AS ADVERTISED
Restrictions
4B OFF-PEAK​
Adult
£48.60
Child
£24.30​
◊​
Outward & Return:​
NOT VALID ON CERTAIN TRAINS - PLEASE ENQUIRE​

Ticket issued to:​
LONDON TERMINALS​
Fare Setter: SOUTHERN​
Route
NOT UNDERGROUND​
Validity
SEE RESTRICTNS
Restrictions
C0 OFF-PEAK​
Adult
£44.00
Child
£22.00​
Outward:​
VALID ON TRAINS DUE IN LDN AT/AFTER 09:45 M-F​
Return:​
BY ANY TRAIN​

Ticket issued to:​
LONDON THAMESLNK​
Fare Setter: SOUTHERN​
Route
ANY PERMITTED​
Validity
SEE RESTRICTNS
Restrictions
C0 OFF-PEAK​
Adult
£43.90
Child
£21.95​
Outward:​
VALID ON TRAINS DUE IN LDN AT/AFTER 09:45 M-F​
Return:​
BY ANY TRAIN​

Ticket issued to:​
LONDON TERMINALS​
Fare Setter: SOUTHERN​
Route
SOUTHERN ONLY​
Validity
ONE DAY
Restrictions
DS SOUTHERN DAYSAVE​
Adult
£26.00
Child
£2.00​
Outward & Return:​
BY ANY TRAIN MON-FRI AFTER 1000​

Ticket issued to:​
ANY SOUTHN TRAIN​
Fare Setter: UNKNOWN​
Route
SOUTHERN ONLY​
Validity
ONE DAY
Restrictions
DS SOUTHERN DAYSAVE​
Adult
£52.00
Child
£39.00​
Outward & Return:​
BY ANY TRAIN MON-FRI AFTER 1000​

Ticket issued to:​
ANY SOUTHN TRAIN​
Fare Setter: UNKNOWN​
 
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The “super off peak day return” ticket is explicitly to London Victoria, not London Terminals, hence excludes London Bridge.

You can get a super off peak day Travelcard with the same restriction, which is clearly valid to London Bridge, but this might not meet your needs.
 

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I think you can buy a Havant to London Bridge via Three Bridges Super Off Peak Day Return for the same price.
 
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