brad465
Veteran Member
This is an issue that has gained traction in 2026 so far, and given it transcended multiple governments and authorities I think warrants its own discussion.
Plan 2 loans are in the spotlight in light of the problems the T&Cs are causing, in particular the interest accrued and how repayments are made. I'm on one of these plans and even though my line of work is related to my degree, I've been getting buyer's remorse recently over the matter, wondering if I could have achieved a similar career path with an alternative qualification and much less debt. At the moment my salary is not enough to cause major concern, but if I was promoted another level or two in my organisation, this could be a problem, and a number of earners above £50kpa are being burdened by this, all while not really paying off debt because of the high interest charged. While the 30-year write off is a good condition, this is a long way off and shackles workers in the prime of their career.
A BBC report today is putting a spotlight on how the loans were sold to prospective students, highlighting how even the salesmen/women who promoted the loans back in the 2010s feel like they were conned:
www.bbc.co.uk
I think the current government are not handling this well so far, however they are also stuck between a rock and a hard place on this, as any major changes to the policy risks public finance shocks. What I think should be done if possible, is make the loans interest-free, and maybe even go as far as writing off all the debt that is purely previous accrued interest. The argument being that higher earners already pay higher tax volumes, so in theory this is their "loan interest", then there is a realistic chance of more graduates paying off the loan before the 30-year write off. However, retrospective changes to T&Cs, even where favourable for the indebted individual, could encounter some legal challenges.
Plan 2 loans are in the spotlight in light of the problems the T&Cs are causing, in particular the interest accrued and how repayments are made. I'm on one of these plans and even though my line of work is related to my degree, I've been getting buyer's remorse recently over the matter, wondering if I could have achieved a similar career path with an alternative qualification and much less debt. At the moment my salary is not enough to cause major concern, but if I was promoted another level or two in my organisation, this could be a problem, and a number of earners above £50kpa are being burdened by this, all while not really paying off debt because of the high interest charged. While the 30-year write off is a good condition, this is a long way off and shackles workers in the prime of their career.
A BBC report today is putting a spotlight on how the loans were sold to prospective students, highlighting how even the salesmen/women who promoted the loans back in the 2010s feel like they were conned:
'Misleading' school talks compared student loans to £30 phone contracts
Graduates hired to deliver the presentations a decade ago were told to avoid using words like "debt".
The government compared student loan repayments to a £30-a-month phone contract in a presentation to teenagers a decade ago, BBC News has discovered.
The presentation was part of a series of "student finance tours" delivered to thousands of schools between 2011 and 2017, by graduates who were asked to speak to pupils and parents on the then-government's behalf.
The graduates were told to "avoid words [or] phrases like debt", with one former presenter now telling the BBC he felt like he had "sold his soul to the devil".
The Department for Education (DfE) said the presentations were delivered under previous governments, and that current ministers had focused on making the system fairer.
One script from 2016-17, seen by the BBC, stresses that applicants should do their research and tells them where to find further information. Where possible, graduates took questions after the presentation and the script refers to an accompanying leaflet, which the BBC has not seen.
However, the BBC has spoken to former presenters and interviewed two who say they feel the implications of taking out a loan were downplayed.
The revelations come as the government faces mounting pressure to change the repayment terms of Plan 2 student loans, which were issued in England between September 2012 and July 2023 and are still issued in Wales.
Last week, Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer said he would "look at ways" to make them "fairer".
Ed, who was among the 2016 presenters, said he felt he was helping those who were thinking about going to university at the time, but now feels one part of the script in particular seemed like a "sales tactic".
In a section explaining that graduates would repay 9% of anything they earned above the repayment threshold, which was £21,000 at the time, it gives an example of someone earning £25,000.
"You'll pay 9% of £4,000. In case you're wondering, that works out at just under £7 a week – or just under £30 a month," it reads.
"I don't know about you but my phone contract costs about that which might help to put things into a context and point out that the monthly repayments are entirely affordable."
The National Union of Students said the script for the presentation about Plan 2 loans - which have been heavily criticised this year over their high interest rates and changes to the repayment thresholds - had "aged poorly" and was "deeply misleading".
According to a government contract with Event Marketing Solutions (EMS) - a private company that hired graduates and delivered tours - the aim was to "convert" young people from disadvantaged backgrounds into "actual [higher education] applicants".
The BBC understands that the presentation, script and notes would have been either provided or approved by the Department for Education.
I think the current government are not handling this well so far, however they are also stuck between a rock and a hard place on this, as any major changes to the policy risks public finance shocks. What I think should be done if possible, is make the loans interest-free, and maybe even go as far as writing off all the debt that is purely previous accrued interest. The argument being that higher earners already pay higher tax volumes, so in theory this is their "loan interest", then there is a realistic chance of more graduates paying off the loan before the 30-year write off. However, retrospective changes to T&Cs, even where favourable for the indebted individual, could encounter some legal challenges.
- and I'll even allow you a few quid for beer along the way!