Strange/unusual destinations programmed in the PIS

[Peter0124]

When I was travelling from Glasgow on Avanti, the announcements started saying stations on the Holyhead line. Pendos don't even go there never mind being the wrong route!

 

[tutacre]

When I was travelling from Glasgow on Avanti, the announcements started saying stations on the Holyhead line. Pendos don't even go there never mind being the wrong route!

Pendolinos were regular visitors to Holyhead and North Wales for many years, dragged by locomotives.

 

[saismee]

When standing at Temple Mills (and presumably other depots) I've seen 745s with Berney Arms on the front as opposed to Not in Service

Seeing a 755 say Saxmundham at Norwich was an odd sight, though I didn't know that there is (or was) an Ipswich to Saxmundham service in the morning, so it has a reason to exist. Now been replaced with the somewhat silly Ipswich to Norwich via Beccles & Lowestoft service.

 

[170399]

158813

East Midlands Trains Class 158 Sprinter 158813 sits at Norwich with a service for Liverpool Lime Street. Note: the destination on the front.

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Back in 2017, I got a picture of 158813 at Norwich showing the destination of Keith. The previous service it had worked was from Lowestoft when Greater Anglia borrowed an East Midlands 158 in the morning.

 

[A S Leib]

I seem to remember TfL's Aventras have voice lines for far away provincial backwaters such as Manchester Piccadilly

I saw a 345 passing Leighton Buzzard with Crewe as its destination on Thursday.

 

[Mattplans]

The voice files can be found here: https://www.railannouncements.co.uk/rolling-stock/tfl/elizabeth-line for class 345s and 710s

 

[MattyN67856]

Guessing the Azuma’s don’t have Bedford programmed given the paper destination cards today

 

[CW2]

The Avanti 17:16 Euston - Crewe runs via Birmingham, Bescot, Wolverhampton, Stafford, and Stoke. It's scheduled to stand in Crewe Up & Down Pottery Loop 20:28 - 20:35 awaiting a path into the station. (It usually uses platform 12, so needs to cross the entire station throat).

After leaving Stoke, the on board PIS shows "Crewe Up & Down" as the next station.

 

[saismee]

After leaving Stoke, the on board PIS shows "Crewe Up & Down" as the next station

Reminds me of the times I've seen "Platform TL" on an information screen, as well as an automatic announcement saying "The train now approaching platform TL does not stop here".

My favourite station has to be " ".

 

[Peterthegreat]

Guessing the Azuma’s don’t have Bedford programmed given the paper destination cards today

That's correct.

 

[GordonT]

Guessing the Azuma’s don’t have Bedford programmed given the paper destination cards today

Logistically how massive a task is it to add a destination onto every Azuma's screen list?

 

[800301]

Logistically how massive a task is it to add a destination onto every Azuma's screen list?

Quite a long one that Hitachi will charge you an arm and a leg for, GWR had Euston and Waterloo added months before we actually went to Euston both were added as at the time it wasn’t confirmed where we were going so better to have both than none

 

[zwk500]

The Avanti 17:16 Euston - Crewe runs via Birmingham, Bescot, Wolverhampton, Stafford, and Stoke. It's scheduled to stand in Crewe Up & Down Pottery Loop 20:28 - 20:35 awaiting a path into the station. (It usually uses platform 12, so needs to cross the entire station throat).

After leaving Stoke, the on board PIS shows "Crewe Up & Down" as the next station.

Is that a data error in the schedule or just the train "reading" the schedule wrong.

Reminds me of the times I've seen "Platform TL" on an information screen, as well as an automatic announcement saying "The train now approaching platform TL does not stop here".

My favourite station has to be " ".

That's an impressive data error to grab Temple Mills Jn in as well.

 

[GraphitProjekt]

Might have already been mentioned but I remember someone saying EMR (or EMT) sprinters had Ashby-de-la-Zouch programmed in for the proposed Ivanhoe line service

 

[saismee]

That's an impressive data error to grab Temple Mills Jn in as well.

I'm curious why the other timing points and destination weren't named if Temple Mills East Jn is.

 

[cduncan]

I've forgotten the LNER diverts to Bedford are on today. It doesn't seem to be programmed on the IET fleet but there are a few pictures of Window labels made for these services.

 

[Brightonboy]

Seeing a 755 say Saxmundham at Norwich was an odd sight, though I didn't know that there is (or was) an Ipswich to Saxmundham service in the morning, so it has a reason to exist. Now been replaced with the somewhat silly Ipswich to Norwich via Beccles & Lowestoft service.

Although many (perhaps most or even all) of the diagrams for services to Lowestoft actually run Ipswich - Lowestoft - Norwich or vice versa so there is little difference in practical terms whether they are labelled Ipswich - Norwich (via Lowestoft) or Ipswich - Lowestoft and then relabelled. Similarly, the Lowestoft <> Harwich services and new Lowestoft <> Cambridge services are more about 'image' and gleaning a few more £ from publicly 'joining up' stages of the working diagrams

 

[saismee]

Although many (perhaps most or even all) of the diagrams for services to Lowestoft actually run Ipswich - Lowestoft - Norwich or vice versa so there is little difference in practical terms whether they are labelled Ipswich - Norwich (via Lowestoft) or Ipswich - Lowestoft and then relabelled. Similarly, the Lowestoft <> Harwich services and new Lowestoft <> Cambridge services are more about 'image' and gleaning a few more £ from publicly 'joining up' stages of the working diagrams

The benefit is a guaranteed connection, where a service not advertised as a "through" service could be subject to a unit/platform change without notice to the passengers on board.

I do agree that there is little difference though. Every other East Suffolk service is advertised as terminating at Lowestoft, so why is this one unique? Is it just to confuse the few passengers who want to travel from Ipswich to Norwich at that time?

Then again, having the service "terminate" at Saxmundham before was also very arbitrary and strange, especially as it continued onwards as a SAX to LWT service anyway!

 

[Brightonboy]

The benefit is a guaranteed connection, where a service not advertised as a "through" service could be subject to a unit/platform change without notice to the passengers on board.

I do agree that there is little difference though. Every other East Suffolk service is advertised as terminating at Lowestoft, so why is this one unique? Is it just to confuse the few passengers who want to travel from Ipswich to Norwich at that time?

Then again, having the service "terminate" at Saxmundham before was also very arbitrary and strange, especially as it continued onwards as a SAX to LWT service anyway!

Agreed, although I doubt there is much call from LWT passengers for travel to Cambridge or Harwich, (or, indeed, Ipswich or Woodbridge to Somerleyton or Reedham) especially at the times involved.

 

[A S Leib]

especially at the times involved.

The time involves is useful for the Hoek van Holland ferry (arriving fifty minutes before check-in closes), but from Lowestoft alone, or even from Ipswich (one change at Manningtree and I think a direct service from Cambridge), likely still not a massive market.

 

[CW2]

Is that a data error in the schedule or just the train "reading" the schedule wrong.

I think it's a data error, with an unadvertised operational stop incorrectly coded as a passenger stop.

 

[M60lad]

Why does it cost so much and why does it seem so hard just to add destinations into every Azuma in the fleet? I know that on buses it can be done in minutes and some destinations can be updated back at depot while the bus is on the road and sent to the bus wirelessly online.

 

[EYFanatic]

I am not sure if this breaks The International Statute of Secrecy or you muggles are aware of magic and so are covered by me saying this, but tomorrow the PIS will show HOGWARTS on a few trains at London King's Cross as my fellow magicals travel to school... Surely an unusual destination

 

[Scotrail344Lad]

Hmm. I thought they stopped that?

 

[Trainfan2019]

On a couple of occasions now, I've seen the LNWR class 350 Manchester Airport trains (route learning?) displaying 'Special Train' on arrival into Crewe.

 

[170399]

Another one I found in the archives while looking for something else, once again an EMT 158 at Norwich going somewhere that I doubt has been visited by 158865.

 

[EYFanatic]

Another one I found in the archives while looking for something else, once again an EMT 158 at Norwich going somewhere that I doubt has been visited by 158865.

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Wasn't there an Northampton to Aberystwyth service via New Street under Central Trains...? I imagine that it still had it on the destination blind selection from when it ran as part of the fleet

 

[LowLevel]

Wasn't there an Northampton to Aberystwyth service via New Street under Central Trains...? I imagine that it still had it on the destination blind selection from when it ran as part of the fleet

158865 was never a Central Trains unit, it was a Wales and West/Wessex Trains set from introduction until 2007. The 158s had a standard destination list from new though, up until the shadow TOCs came in they wandered more in their first years.

 

[Sprinter107]

Might have already been mentioned but I remember someone saying EMR (or EMT) sprinters had Ashby-de-la-Zouch programmed in for the proposed Ivanhoe line service

They certainly did have Ashby de la Zouch. They also had Coalville. They had a few places that didnt have stations. If you selected 398 it came up as Hereford North. Im sure it shouldve been Hertford North. If you selected 998 it would scroll thro everything in the directory. Each destination remaining on screen for about 20 seconds or so. It would take almost 2 hours to go thro the lot.

 

[webbfan]

They certainly did have Ashby de la Zouch. They also had Coalville. They had a few places that didnt have stations. If you selected 398 it came up as Hereford North. Im sure it shouldve been Hertford North. If you selected 998 it would scroll thro everything in the directory. Each destination remaining on screen for about 20 seconds or so. It would take almost 2 hours to go thro the lot.

Could have used it on a railtour, seen a couple come through