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Strange Route from Rail Mileage Engine.

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I was interested on getting some mileages for the ELL.

I input Surrey Quays to New Cross.

This is how it came out!

Distance: 7mi 10ch - show the route on a map
Route: Surrey Quays, Canal Junction, New Cross Gate, Bricklayers Arms Junction, South Bermondsey Junction, London Bridge, New Cross

Script executed in 0.1047 seconds.

Surely some mistake?
 
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It seems that it needs to be inputted as ''New Cross (ELL)'' which gives a route of 1mi 32ch
 

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thanks.

It he origin and destination fields used to have an autocomplete
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I am looking for the miles and chains for the whole East London Line from Highbury & Islington to New Cross/New Cross Gate.

Wanted it to include junctions etc.
 

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Yes it did used to autocomplete and yes, you sometimes have to be extra specific with some of the input else you get some very very strange routings!
 

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Try Lichfield City to Lichfield Trent Valley if you want a strange routing!!!
 

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bb21 is compiling a list of challenging locations here. It might be worth alerting to him to these so that other can be assisted.

That's BRILLIANT bit of info as I am missing a few route/miles off my list from last year as Railemile isn't autocompleteing.

BUT

Has anyone got the Miles and Chains from Surrey Quays to Queens Road (Peckham) along the new ELL route please ?

Railmiles currently sends you via South Bermondsey !!!!!
 

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Thanks Yorkie, but there that is the long way around.

The completely new spur goes from North (ish) of Canal Junction to a new junction to the North of Queens Road (Peckham) it goes under the LBG-BTN line and south past Millwalls ground.
 

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The Sectional Appendix gives

Surrey Quays 4-46
Silwood Jn 4-66
ELL/NR Boundary 5-51 / 2-23
Old Kent Road Jn 2-32
Queens Road Peckham 2-58

which gives a total mileage of 1m40ch for Surrey Quays to Queens Road Peckham.
 

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The Sectional Appendix gives

Surrey Quays 4-46
Silwood Jn 4-66
ELL/NR Boundary 5-51 / 2-23
Old Kent Road Jn 2-32
Queens Road Peckham 2-58

which gives a total mileage of 1m40ch for Surrey Quays to Queens Road Peckham.

Thanks greatkingrat

Silwoodjn is just north of Canal Jn I guess.

And Old Kent Road jn is the new one that has been added. :)

I used to have access to the Sec App moons ago and used to get a pdf of it for reference.

Thanks again :)
 

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Information on Surrey Quays to Queens Road Peckham is available from our Supplementary Resources list in the Mileage Competition thread.

For a proper blunder, enquire on RailMiles about HUD to WKF, then enquire about HUD to WKF via WKK. :lol:
 

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For a proper blunder, enquire on RailMiles about HUD to WKF, then enquire about HUD to WKF via WKK. :lol:

The irony is that that route (HUD - WKF) would make more sense if after avoiding Leeds, it went through Kirkgate them along the chord, rather than via Sandal!!!
 

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I've just had a look at the site. The first thing I noticed was that there's nothing on the page to say what it's meant to do, and there are no links to a more general page. My impression is that it's trying to work out how far a rail vehicle would travel between two points, ignoring the length of the vehicle and any signalling constraints.

If so, there are a few problems with the data used:

It doesn't treat the two lines at Liverpool Central as being disconnected, although Moorfields is treated correctly (albeit using different terminology to Lime Street).

It doesn't include the stock interchange/holding line in Liverpool.

These two mistakes mean that the distance between a Wirral line station and a Northern line one aren't too far out.

It doesn't treat the diesel and electric sections of Ormskirk and Kirkby as being disconnected. I imagine a train could go through the buffers, but it probably shouldn't.

It doesn't account for the fact that no platform in Wrexham General has access to all lines, so a train going from Chester to Wrexham Central has to reverse at Croes Newydd North Fork and Wrexham Exchange Junction. This could be remedied by making platforms 1 & 2 one location, 3 another and 4 a third.

It treats the Halton curve as being bidirectional.

It includes a long-gone railway between Mickle Trafford and Dee Marsh Junction as a route.

If not, maybe only the last one matters.
 
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