Stock used on Euston holyhead route

[turbo mick]

Hi guys iam going to bangor on wednesday from euston what does virgin use. is it 5 car voyagers


cheers

mick

 

[Geezertronic]

Usually is Super Voyagers, what time you going?

 

[Ibex]

It varies a bit. Generally its 221s however you'll find some throughout the day (in peaks) will be a 10 car.

Generally with the 10 car sets the rear set will detatch at Chester and either terminate there or go forward to Wrexham, whilst the front set will go forward to Holyhead on its own.

The 08:50 from Euston to Holyhead on a Saturday is usually a 390 hauled from Crewe onwards too.

 

[turbo mick]

Iam hoping to get the 0810 off euston having to go to a funeral only been as far as chester on that route

cheers

 

[craig87034]

Iam hoping to get the 0810 off euston having to go to a funeral only been as far as chester on that route

cheers

1D82 0810 Euston-Bangor is booked a 5 car super voyager

 

[turbo mick]

thanks for info i live in reading so have the option of going via birmingham but i think the long way


cheers

mick

 

[MCR247]

I wouldn't go via BHM

 

[4SRKT]

Usually is Super Voyagers, what time you going?

'Super Voyagers' being the ultimate contradiction

 

[Geezertronic]

'Super Voyagers' being the ultimate contradiction

Class 221 if it makes you happier

 

[ChrisCooper]

The biggest irony of the "Super Voyagers" is that whilst their tilt gives them a slight advantage on the WCML (although not as much as 390s as they don't tilt as much), it also adds to their weight, making each car 10t heavier. Having the same engines as Voyagers means that the do suffer from lower performance, roughly the same as the 2+7 HSTs. I imagine they have higher track access charges too, and are a higher Route Availability (4 instead of 2).

 

[Voyager 2093]

I wouldn't go via BHM

How else would you go?

 

[Pumbaa]

How else would you go?

Reading > Euston > Holyhead? :-? That is the logical way to me! Avoids Brum.

 

[Voyager 2093]

Didn't know that's why I was asking.

 

[turbo mick]

when to bangor on the 0810 from euston very busy to MK went via birmingham on the way back save going through london at the eve rush hour changed chester,crewe,and brum

 

[Geezertronic]

The biggest irony of the "Super Voyagers" is that whilst their tilt gives them a slight advantage on the WCML (although not as much as 390s as they don't tilt as much), it also adds to their weight, making each car 10t heavier. Having the same engines as Voyagers means that the do suffer from lower performance, roughly the same as the 2+7 HSTs. I imagine they have higher track access charges too, and are a higher Route Availability (4 instead of 2).

I wonder what they would do should the VT Class 221's go down the pantograph coach option?

 

[38Cto15E]

I was watching the 221s along the WCML last week at Nunueaton, Atherstone and Tamworth, with the noise of the engines they appear to go faster than the Pendos, although they don't.
Anyone know what their line speed is through these stations?
TIA

 

[Pumbaa]

125 through Tamworth, 100 through Atherstone and 125 through Nuneaton.

 

[38Cto15E]

Many thanks Pumbaa, I know that they get a move on

It seems strange to me to see the Intermodals coming through Nuneaton on Platform 2 or 5 at about 75mph, I am used to seeing stuff crawling through there at 20mph in the 70s, even drove through there myself on a freight, actually all the way from Colwich Jct and more than once.