Sticking your head out of the window - tips?

[mappman1000]

More similar in a wonderful clip that literally almost makes me cry every time I see it. Aureol40012 is the king of YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr1IGBWK0qo

I counted 4 heads in that front window!

In terms of heads out, I do it quite often, but only at low speeds and on routes that I know the clearance is good. I've seen people sticking their heads out of the sliding doors on 442's, not sure why they are even open. Either broken locks or someone has a T-Key at hand The problem with the southern 442's is they have no guards so people know they can do as much heads out as they like, and shout abuse through stations. I've also heard story's of people going into the middle cabs while unlocked, and blowing the horns and doing the window washers.

On NXEA, guards never seem to care, and I've done heads out on the yarmouth drags many times and not been told off once. I've also done it on 90's at low speed, as high speed is fun but not on your eyes, so I prefer to just stand by the window and enjoy the view with the wind coming through.

 

[4SRKT]

An enthusiast friend of mine who was lucky enough to travel into Belfast to school in the 1980s on 70 class DEMUs told me an amusing story. He was window hanging himself, when from the vestibule window in the coach in front a bare arse appeared. He investigated and found that some wag was mooning out of the window. However, to avoid drawing attention to himself the mooner's mate was standing right up against him in case the guard came round and saw what was going on. My mate returned to his window and noticed a thorny branch approaching. He smiled to himself and said nothing. Of course when branch and arse came into contact the owner of the arse couldn't get back in quickly because his mate was blocking his retreat. Much cursing and general hilarity for the non-mooners present ensued.

 

[SouthEastern-465]

An enthusiast friend of mine who was lucky enough to travel into Belfast to school in the 1980s on 70 class DEMUs told me an amusing story. He was window hanging himself, when from the vestibule window in the coach in front a bare arse appeared. He investigated and found that some wag was mooning out of the window. However, to avoid drawing attention to himself the mooner's mate was standing right up against him in case the guard came round and saw what was going on. My mate returned to his window and noticed a thorny branch approaching. He smiled to himself and said nothing. Of course when branch and arse came into contact the owner of the arse couldn't get back in quickly because his mate was blocking his retreat. Much cursing and general hilarity for the non-mooners present ensued.

I couldn't stop laughing, its left a great image in my mind!

 

[318259]

I was on a CrossCountry train last week. To get off the train, you had to roll the window all the way down, stick your arm out and pull a handle down.

I did roll the window down and stick my head out for a few minutes as we approached Glasgow Central. It was great fun.

I also did this a few years back on an ancient 1960s Soviet train when travelling through Hungary. The doors didn't even lock, you could open them and swing out. And the 'toilet' was a pipe down to the train tracks.

Sadly Hungary has a lot of new Desiros, and there aren't many ancient 1960s loco-hauled carriages left around Budapest.

 

[Hydro]

I also did this a few years back on an ancient 1960s Soviet train when travelling through Hungary. The doors didn't even lock, you could open them and swing out. And the 'toilet' was a pipe down to the train tracks.

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Sounds exactly like Mk1 slam door units. I've seen a door opened at about 60mph by an errant schoolchild.

 

[4SRKT]

I used to commute from Belfast to Larne on 450 class DEMUs in the early 90s. Even though these sets were the standard York mk III body with air operated doors a la 455 or 150, a favourite trick of schoolkids was to get their fingers in the rubber seal and force open the doors when the train was moving, then stand in a star jump position holding the doors open as it bucketed along. Needless to say the guards took a fairly dim view of this, and offenders' passes were taken from them.

 

[dieselbashdave]

My 'appeny worth (me dad's from Yorkshire!): Vyvyan from The Young Ones in "Bambi". It's been said before...

 

[4SRKT]

A couple of weeks ago I boaded the northbound WAG-ex at Newport, and was leaning out pretty much all the way from Abergavenny to Chester, where I bailed. The weather was great, the mk II stock was lovely and the 57 actually more to my taste than a duff would have been (although I can well remember the days of 33s on this route). All in all it was a splendid experience, and took me right back. There was quite a bit of vestibule veg on board from Newport, but they mostly bailed at Cwmbran (insects) leaving the droplights free. The only other basher going beyond Cwmbran couldn't have been more than 14, and he was leaning out like a a good 'un, seemingly uninfected by the H&S mania that has gripped large numbers of people in the last 20 years or so.

 

[Flamingo]

There was quite a bit of vestibule veg on board

Vestibule veg! Love it (I'm going to steal that one)

 

[arabianights]

Sounds exactly like Mk1 slam door units. I've seen a door opened at about 60mph by an errant schoolchild.

What happens next? Seems to me impossible to do against the wind, and in the direction of the wind likely to lead to damage.

Glad to see this thread is still on going by the way - it pleases my heart htere are many others who share my little perversion

 

[dieselbashdave]

Glad to see this thread is still on going by the way - it pleases my heart htere are many others who share my little perversion

I always wanted to travel on a GNER Valenta HST in the first (or last) coach with the window open at full scream.

Sadly NXEC uses MTU these days, which aren't as nice sounding as the Valenta but it does have a nice idle sound *ducks to avoid rotten tomatoes*

 

[33109]

You can't beat the feeling of getting your head out the window, MK3s were some of the best stock built in my eyes Having your head out behind a 90 up the west coast at 110mph is cracking

 

[WestCoast]

Sadly NXEC uses MTU these days

NXEC are back? hock::-x

*sorry*

 

[ainsworth74]

which aren't as nice sounding as the Valenta but it does have a nice idle sound *ducks to avoid rotten tomatoes*

Actually I agree with you there, whilst the Valenta certainly has more drama and 'oh my lordz' about it, the MTU (to me at least) still has quite a pleasing growl about it both at idle and also moving off (though nothing like as good as a Valenta at full bore).

 

[Yew]

Actually I agree with you there, whilst the Valenta certainly has more drama and 'oh my lordz' about it, the MTU (to me at least) still has quite a pleasing growl about it both at idle and also moving off (though nothing like as good as a Valenta at full bore).

This is turning into a discussion about guitar tone! How long before we talk about Roaring Marshalls, Growling Oranges, and Chiming Fenders

 

[4SRKT]

As a first class pass holder in the 1980s I had my head out many times from the window of the TF next to the rear Valenta power car screaming along the race track between York and Northallerton. There's nothing quite like it.

 

[Flamingo]

As a first class pass holder in the 1980s I had my head out many times from the window of the TF next to the rear Valenta power car screaming along the race track between York and Northallerton. There's nothing quite like it.

I don't think the wasp that is going to smack you on the face at 100 MPH will care if you have a 1st class pass or not.

Mass of honey bee =90g
Speed of train, say 160 kM/H

Anyone able to do the math?

 

[Yew]

90g? that seems rather a lot

Ke = 1/2MV^2

90g in Kg = 0.09

160000m/h in m/s = 44.44444m/s

0.5 x (0.09 x 44.444^2) = 87j

87j is pretty negligable. I would say a splat is possible, but I doubt you would even get a bruise

 

[Flamingo]

90g? that seems rather a lot

Ke = 1/2MV^2

90g in Kg = 0.09

160000m/h in m/s = 44.44444m/s

0.5 x (0.09 x 44.444^2) = 87j

87j is pretty negligable. I would say a splat is possible, but I doubt you would even get a bruise

Fair enough

 

[ralphchadkirk]

A honeybee is probably around 0.1-0.5g.

 

[ainsworth74]

I don't think the wasp that is going to smack you on the face at 100 MPH will care if you have a 1st class pass or not.

100mph on the race track? More like 125mph minimum, in the 1980s before anyone cared about speeding (or at least before OTMR) could have been more!

As for the math I have a bee at 90 milligrams (9x10-5) and the speed of the train at 125mph (55.88m/s).

So:

1/2 x 9x10-5 x (55.88)^2

= 0.14 joules of energy

1 joule = 1 newton = 100g of force so it would like getting hit in the face by 0.14g.

 

[Flamingo]

Sorry, I left out an "m" in my original post!

I meant 90mg, not 90g

 

[ralphchadkirk]

Sorry, I left out an "m" in my original post!

I meant 90mg, not 90g

It could be a morbidly obese bee!

 

[strange6]

It could be a morbidly obese bee!

Either way, I would say the kinetic energy and the momentum of the train is much greater than the bee's. SPLAT!

 

[ainsworth74]

Either way, I would say the kinetic energy and the momentum of the train is much greater than the bee's. SPLAT!

Actually the discussion was relating to the impact of a bee on a persons face whilst hanging out of a window rather than the train itself. But even with that in mind I would have to say I wouldn't worry too much about getting hit by a bee.

 

[strange6]

Actually the discussion was relating to the impact of a bee on a persons face whilst hanging out of a window rather than the train itself. But even with that in mind I would have to say I wouldn't worry too much about getting hit by a bee.

Unless it hit you sting first!

 

[ralphchadkirk]

Unless it hit you sting first!

And you're allergic to bee stings!

 

[Flamingo]

And you're allergic to bee stings!

Or your mouth is open

 

[ralphchadkirk]

Or your mouth is open

You'd probably be the most unlucky person alive if all that happened!

 

[Flamingo]

It happens!