Stations with split signalling control

[copernicium112]

How many stations are there where different signal control centres (box, ROC, ASC, PSB, SCC whatever) control different platforms?
I don't mean situations like Stockport or Shrewsbury where the absolute block section is the length of the platform, but where different platforms are on physically separate lines with different control centres.
A couple that spring to my mind are:

Clapham Junction (Wimbledon ASC for the SWR plats, Three Bridges ROC for the Southern plats)
Highbury & Islington, Canonbury (NLL plats at Upminster IECC, New Cross for the ELL plats)
Richmond (Richmond GB for the NLL plats, Basingstoke ROC for the SWR plats)

 

[Railsigns]

How many stations are there where different signal control centres (box, ROC, ASC, PSB, SCC whatever) control different platforms?

That's probably the case with most stations that have platforms on different levels, e.g.:

Glasgow Central (High Level platforms controlled from West of Scotland SC; Low Level platforms controlled from Yoker SC)
Glasgow Queen Street (High Level platforms controlled from Edinburgh SC; Low Level platforms controlled from Yoker SC)
Lichfield Trent Valley (Low Level platforms controlled from Rugby SCC; High Level platform controlled from Aston SCC)
Tamworth (Low Level platforms controlled from Rugby SCC; High Level platforms controlled from West Midlands SC)

Further examples where all platforms are on the same level:

Anniesland (Platforms 1 and 2 controlled from Yoker SC; Platform 3 controlled from Edinburgh SC)
Upminster (All platforms controlled from Upminster IECC apart from Platform 6, controlled from Liverpool Street IECC)

 

[Kneedown]

St Pancras
EMR platforms controlled from West Hampstead.
Low level Thameslink platforms from Three Bridges.
HS1 platforms from Ashford.

 

[Bald Rick]

Leaving aside stations where different platforms are on different levels (eg Liverpool LS) or have different infrastructure managers (eg any of the NR + LU stations, or NR + Elizabeth Line core stations, or NR + preserved railways, etc etc), then we have, as examples:

Reading
Upminster
Peckham Rye
Wimbledon

 

[Ashley Hill]

Cardiff Central platform 0-3 plus UM/DM (lines C/D) are on SWCC Mainline desk and platforms 4-8 are on SWCC Valley lines desk.

 

[FGW_DID]

Leaving aside stations where different platforms are on different levels (eg Liverpool LS) or have different infrastructure managers (eg any of the NR + LU stations, or NR + Elizabeth Line core stations, or NR + preserved railways, etc etc), then we have, as examples:

Reading
Upminster
Peckham Rye
Wimbledon

Reading ?

 

[Ashley Hill]

Reading ?

Reading is wholly TVSC. It fringes with Basingstoke near Earley and Reading Green Park.

 

[ABB125]

Reading ?

Presumably the SWR platforms are separately controlled from the mainline platforms?

EDIT: or perhaps not!

 

[Springs Branch]

Headbolt Lane and Ormskirk and Liverpool South Parkway.


I was about to post stations between Wembley Central & Watford Jn with platforms on the AC lines - until I realised Willesden Suburban is long gone, and that my knowledge of signalling arrangements on the DC lines is way out of date. Is there any way the Watford DC Line could still be a candidate? (presumably now has its own workstation at Wembley)

 

[FGW_DID]

Reading is wholly TVSC. It fringes with Basingstoke near Earley and Reading Green Park.

Yep, that's why I was querying Reading as posted by @Bald Rick

Presumably the SWR platforms are separately controlled from the mainline platforms?

EDIT: or perhaps not!

Something at the back of my mind seems to think the Southern (region not the TOC) platforms (4/5/6) fall under the remit of the TVSC Twyford workstation as opposed to the TVSC Reading Stn workstation. I may be wrong!

Reading is split though when it comes to Electrical Control Rooms (ECR). The AC platforms are controlled by the ECR at TVSC Didcot and the DC platforms (4/5/6) are controlled by Eastleigh ECR.

 

[Benjwri]

Surely London Victoria is a prime example?

 

[Cails27]

Stirling is controlled by Stirling Middle and Stirling North boxes. Control changes over half way up the platforms

 

[Bald Rick]

Reading ?

I could have sworn the DC platforms were controlled from Basingstoke, but evidently not! apologies.

Surely London Victoria is a prime example?

I left that off the list as I couldnt remember in the fog of a late Sat night if that had transferred to TBROC in the last couple of years or not.

 

[Benjwri]

I could have sworn the DC platforms were controlled from Basingstoke, but evidently not! apologies.




I left that off the list as I couldnt remember in the fog of a late Sat night if that had transferred to TBROC in the last couple of years or not.

That’s actually a good point I’m not sure if it has!

 

[Falcon1200]

Maybe not quite what the OP intended, but at Partick the Network Rail and Subway lines are of course controlled from different places.....

 

[Cricketer8for9]

Does Stratford count? All above ground, Two tube lines, Network Rail and the DLR. Of course including Stratford would mean including many Underground interchanges…

 

[The Puddock]

Stirling is controlled by Stirling Middle and Stirling North boxes. Control changes over half way up the platforms

Depending on how pedantic you wish to be, you could describe Stirling station as being controlled by three different signalboxes. The SAK panel, which controls the eastern end of the Kincardine Line platforms is - operationally - treated as a competely seperate signalling location despite being physically located in Stirling Middle signalbox.

 

[Cails27]

Depending on how pedantic you wish to be, you could describe Stirling station as being controlled by three different signalboxes. The SAK panel, which controls the eastern end of the Kincardine Line platforms is - operationally - treated as a competely seperate signalling location despite being physically located in Stirling Middle signalbox.

I do enjoy a bit of pedantry - good to know!

I don’t sign Alloa so very rarely in P6/9 in Stirling to be honest.

 

[MadMac]

That's probably the case with most stations that have platforms on different levels, e.g.:

Glasgow Central (High Level platforms controlled from West of Scotland SC; Low Level platforms controlled from Yoker SC)
Glasgow Queen Street (High Level platforms controlled from Edinburgh SC; Low Level platforms controlled from Yoker SC)
Lichfield Trent Valley (Low Level platforms controlled from Rugby SCC; High Level platform controlled from Aston SCC)
Tamworth (Low Level platforms controlled from Rugby SCC; High Level platforms controlled from West Midlands SC)

Further examples where all platforms are on the same level:

Anniesland (Platforms 1 and 2 controlled from Yoker SC; Platform 3 controlled from Edinburgh SC)
Upminster (All platforms controlled from Upminster IECC apart from Platform 6, controlled from Liverpool Street IECC)

There was a plan, which was seriously looked at some 40 years ago, to close the box at Glasgow Central and split control of the station between Motherwell and Paisley!

 

[Class15]

Stratford - most platforms are Liverpool St but 1 & 2 are Upminster.

Willesden Jn - low and high levels.

Richmond - Waterloo for mainline platforms, Gunnersbury for District/NLL.

 

[Falcon1200]

There was a plan, which was seriously looked at some 40 years ago, to close the box at Glasgow Central and split control of the station between Motherwell and Paisley!

Which, thankfully, never happened; Instead the boxes at Glasgow Central, Motherwell, Paisley (and Barrhead and Cathcart) are now all in the same place!

 

[Class15]

A few extras now I think of it:
Wembley Central, Queens Park, Harrow & Wealdstone, Bushey & Watford Junction. All Wembley Mainline and Suburban.

 

[JN114]

Something at the back of my mind seems to think the Southern (region not the TOC) platforms (4/5/6) fall under the remit of the TVSC Twyford workstation as opposed to the TVSC Reading Stn workstation. I may be wrong!

Correct - Twyford Workstation do control platforms 4-6, Reading station Workstation 1-3 and 7-15.

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Worcester Foregate Street I guess stretches OP’s definition slightly - the platforms are in the section between signalboxes; but for platform 1 that section is Henwick/Shrub Hill and platform
2 the section is Henwick/Tunnel Jn

 

[Horizon22]

Yes Reading is split on P4-6 which still falls under NR Wessex responsibility I believe not NR Western.

 

[JN114]

Yes Reading is split on P4-6 which still falls under NR Wessex responsibility I believe not NR Western.

Also correct, although for on the day operations, especially with TVSC Twyford being a Western signalbox not Wessex, the lines are a little more blurry than that.

 

[trundlewagon]

Worcester Foregate Street I guess stretches OP’s definition slightly - the platforms are in the section between signalboxes; but for platform 1 that section is Henwick/Shrub Hill and platform
2 the section is Henwick/Tunnel Jn

P1 is within Henwick's station limits - the up 'starter' (HK5) is Henwick's section signal (with the [fixed] distant for Shrub Hill.

P2 is in the section between Tunnel Junction and Henwick though. The signal in the Up direction is Tunnel Jn's home (TJ20) and in the Down direction is Henwick's home (HK22)

 

[MadMac]

There was a plan, which was seriously looked at some 40 years ago, to close the box at Glasgow Central and split control of the station between Motherwell and Paisley!

Yes, and there’s apparently talk of reinstating a presence at Paisley as a “South West Superbox”!

 

[Mag_seven]

Not sure if this meets the OPs criteria but before Cathcart signal box closed certain stations on the Cathcart Circle had one line controlled by Cathcart Signal box and the other line controlled by Glasgow Central Signalling centre.

 

[MadMac]

Not sure if this meets the OPs criteria but before Cathcart signal box closed certain stations on the Cathcart Circle had one line controlled by Cathcart Signal box and the other line controlled by Glasgow Central Signalling centre.

That’s a good shout from where I’m sitting. You could stand at, for example, Pollokshields East and see a ‘G’ prefixed signal at one end and a “C’ prefixed one at the other.

 

[GW43125]

St Pancras
EMR platforms controlled from West Hampstead.
Low level Thameslink platforms from Three Bridges.
HS1 platforms from Ashford.

EMR platforms controlled from Three Bridges ROC, unless it's changed in the last year.

I left that off the list as I couldnt remember in the fog of a late Sat night if that had transferred to TBROC in the last couple of years or not.

Both sides of Victoria (formerly panels 1 for central and 5 for eastern) are now in separate workstations in TBROC.

Whilst we're at it, London Bridge might be a record for having four different workstations control the station (cannon st 1-3, thameslink 4-5, charing cross 6-9 & central 10-15).