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Is that a just visible bit of another pair of tracks just next to the headlight?

If so... what about Kilwinning, which would seem to fit that running in board ( I echo the wish posed further up the thread that this could be enhanced!! )

PS He looks remarkably like Will Hay doesn't he...?

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Is that a just visible bit of another pair of tracks just next to the headlight?

If so... what about Kilwinning, which would seem to fit that running in board ( I echo the wish posed further up the thread that this could be enhanced!! )

PS He looks remarkably like Will Hay doesn't he...?

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Re your PS, I don't think the running-in board reads Buggleskelly, but it would be a nice touch if it did!
 

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An update on this one, the owner of the card has been back in touch after a bout of ill health and having studied the sign under a magnifier thinks it may be Kincardine. What are people’s views on that?
 

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Did Kincardine station ever have an overbridge? How about the next station along from there, i.e. Culross?
 

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Kincardine sounds very convincing. It did once have a footbridge.
 

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The platform furniture, the buildings in the background, including the leftmost red roofed cottage and the goods shed (?) seem to match too, although the later photo has seen some development.
 

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Did Kincardine station ever have an overbridge? How about the next station along from there, i.e. Culross?

Kincardine does not appear to have had a footbridge at the time the photo was likely to have been taken. Culross looks a strong possibility, but there are few photos of it and too many trees nowadays to check the background.
 

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I'll buy Kincardine. The slatting at the end of the canopy is identical. The luggage weighing machine, or whatever it is just below it, looks exactly the same. The goods yard building beyond is in the right position. The angle of the downspout looks the same. The buildings and terrain behind look much the same.
 

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One troubling point is that both Kincardine and Culross closed to passengers in 1930. Culross lost its loop in 1923. Kincardine did have a footbridge, which presumably went shortly after passenger closure, so this photo would have to be have been taken much earlier than one might expect.
 

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Kincardine did have a footbridge in the 1920s - and the lack of curvature in the original motorbike photo can be accounted for by the location of the curve - the platforms are indeed straight by the point of the buildings.

I agree that the photo may be older than was thought. Does anyone know when the footbridge was removed?

Below are a couple of screenshots from the Google Images search "Kincardine station 1920s".


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Kincardine did have a footbridge in the 1920s - and the lack of curvature in the original motorbike photo can be accounted for by the location of the curve - the platforms are indeed straight by the point of the buildings.

I agree that the photo may be older than was thought. Does anyone know when the footbridge was removed?.....
1928 photos on the "Britain from Above" website show the footbridge and two platforms. The next aerial photo from 1948 shows only one platform and no footbridge. Date of closure to passengers is given as 7th July 1930 in the "Atlas of Railway Station Closures (2nd Ed)" but it does not yet appear on the "Disused Stations" website. The line remained open for goods until after 1955 and then served the Longannet power station.
(I assume this is the line that is now being restored for passenger use?)
 

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1928 photos on the "Britain from Above" website show the footbridge and two platforms. The next aerial photo from 1948 shows only one platform and no footbridge. Date of closure to passengers is given as 7th July 1930 in the "Atlas of Railway Station Closures (2nd Ed)" but it does not yet appear on the "Disused Stations" website. The line remained open for goods until after 1955 and then served the Longannet power station.
(I assume this is the line that is now being restored for passenger use?)
A follow-up to my earlier comment in #13 that the bike looks very new and shiny, but the headlamp looks quite old fashioned. Some gentle research suggests that acetylene motorcycle headlamps were superseded by electric c1930? This all fits with John Webb's 1928 photo and 1930 as date of closure. Had the bike been bought to enable its proud owner to commute to a new posting following closure of Kincardine perhaps?
 

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1928 photos on the "Britain from Above" website show the footbridge and two platforms. The next aerial photo from 1948 shows only one platform and no footbridge. Date of closure to passengers is given as 7th July 1930 in the "Atlas of Railway Station Closures (2nd Ed)" but it does not yet appear on the "Disused Stations" website. The line remained open for goods until after 1955 and then served the Longannet power station.
(I assume this is the line that is now being restored for passenger use?)
The line remained open serving first Kincardine power station (full name Kincardine on Forth power station), and then also Longannet power station. The line through Kincardine was still open in 1978 when I worked in the power station. At some point after that the line beyond the power station as far as, I think, Cambus Junction became OOU and any power station (both of them) traffic came in from the east through Dunfermline and Culross.

The section from Cambus Junction to Stirling became OOU when molasses traffic to Menstrie ceased in 1991. The whole line between Stirling and Kincardine reopened in 2008 when passenger services to Alloa started, and merry go round traffic to Longannet power station (Kincardine having been closed and demolished) started using the route. This meant heavier trains, as previously coal trains were routed over the Forth Bridge which had weight restrictions.

Longannet closed in 2016 and the section of line between Alloa and Dunfermline now sees little use.
 
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The line remained open serving first Kincardine power station (full name Kincardine on Forth power station), and then also Longannet power station. The line through Kincardine was still open in 1978 when I worked in the power station. At some point after that the line beyond the power station as far as, I think, Cambus Junction became OOU and any power station (both of them) traffic came in from the east through Dunfermline and Culross.

The section from Cambus Junction to Stirling became OOU when molasses traffic to Menstrie ceased in 1991. The whole line between Stirling and Kincardine reopened in 2008 when passenger services to Alloa started, and merry go round traffic to Longannet power station (Kincardine having been closed and demolished) started using the route. This meant heavier trains, as previously coal trains were routed over the Forth Bridge which had weight restrictions.
The well-known railway author Derek Cross, from Ayrshire, had an extended article in the Railway Magazine in, I would guess, 1973 about riding in one of the Merry-go-Round trains from Ayrshire collieries to Longannet, 2xClass 20 hauled, and that was routed directly via Stirling to the power station, continuing empty after unloading, through Kincardine station site, to Dunfermline to park overnight. There must have been some reason why the line west of Kincardine was closed and these trains were sent the less convenient and roundabout route via the Forth Bridge, and getting in the way of the high speed Glasgow to Edinburgh service.

By chance I saw such a train, helping to recall all this, just months afterwards in Glasgow, climbing from Bellgrove up towards Springburn, and as the article described it was noisy full throttle and little more than walking pace up the steep gradient there. The underpowered operation was the complete antithesis of Merry-go-Round operation, despite the modern air-braked wagons; it had been assembled all the previous day at the colliery by a shunter, a wagon at a time, took the next day for this single trip, including a crew change at Cadder yard, and came back empty from Dunfermline on Day 3.
 
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Do we think that this photo is being posed on a brand new motorcycle? There appears to be a tax disc holder, but with no tax disc. Tax discs were brought in from 1921, so the existence of the holder would presumably mean that the photo is dated 1921 or later.
 
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