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Sorry, no it wasn't. "London Overground" as a brand did not exist until 2007. "Over ground" (two words) describes many stations that are not part of the "London Overground" network (including many on the London Underground!) And there was no service between Olympia and Willesden Junction until 1994
and Network Southeast as a brand didn't exist until 1986 IIRC - not the early 1980s - so to the passenger in the early 1980s it would have all looked like British Rail across the country - trains in all over dark blue or blue and grey paint scheme - not the red white and blue colour scheme of Network Southeast
Station paint scheme in the early 80s likely to be black and white in general terms (Network Southeast started repainting stations from c1986 in their brighter paint schemes with use of red including red lamp posts.
But was the name for all the local and suburban services in a very wide area around London: Overground was just the brand name for a bit. So did the train or station specifically say London Transport Overground, or was the train a Network South East one (*). Use or omission of capital letters is important here.
* - Others can explain the exact relationships if need be: I was elsewhere for much of this period.
Sorry, no it wasn't. "London Overground" as a brand did not exist until 2007. "Over ground" (two words) describes many stations that are not part of the "London Overground" network (including many on the London Underground!) And there was no service between Olympia and Willesden Junction until 1994
Parsons Green, Putney Bridge or East Putney possible. All of them are surrounded by terrace housing and possibly there were more small industrial units around in the 1980s. I'd rule out Southfields and Wimbledon Park as they are not on embankments.
The Hammersmith line is mostly on viaducts rather than embankments, but the OP might be misremembering the grassy bit. Worth looking.
Parsons Green, Putney Bridge or East Putney possible. All of them are surrounded by terrace housing and possibly there were more small industrial units around in the 1980s. I'd rule out Southfields and Wimbledon Park as they are not on embankments.
The Hammersmith line is mostly on viaducts rather than embankments, but the OP might be misremembering the grassy bit. Worth looking.
and Network Southeast as a brand didn't exist until 1986 IIRC - not the early 1980s - so to the passenger in the early 1980s it would have all looked like British Rail across the country - trains in all over dark blue or blue and grey paint scheme - not the red white and blue colour scheme of Network Southeast
Station paint scheme in the early 80s likely to be black and white in general terms (Network Southeast started repainting stations from c1986 in their brighter paint schemes with use of red including red lamp posts.
Well, this now opens a mass of possibilities. Using a tube means that you could have gone under London to just any about other terminal and then to any station served from it. Did you travel on one of the deep tube lines with small trains (only possible to stand up in the centre aisle) or normal size stock?
I do a certain amount of identifying photos of unknown locations, but I need at least one solid detail, even if it is obscure. We don’t seem to have that here.
You might be better trying to find out the identity of the drum case manufacturer and working back. Have you tried old trade or music magazines?
Factory is no longer there. All manufacturers of these products do not know of one that was in London in the 80s. However I went to one, after getting off the train at Paddington main station an picked up my case from this factory an took it all the way back home, also on the train.
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Knowing both routes well, both are mainly on viaduct or through brick-lined cuttings rather than embankment. On the line through Deptford it is only after Maze Hill that grassed embankments and cuttings are present.
Likewise with the line through Seven Sisters, it's really only after that station that grassed embankments/cuttings start appearing.
Well, this now opens a mass of possibilities. Using a tube means that you could have gone under London to just any about other terminal and then to any station served from it. Did you travel on one of the deep tube lines with small trains (only possible to stand up in the centre aisle) or normal size stock?
I do a certain amount of identifying photos of unknown locations, but I need at least one solid detail, even if it is obscure. We don’t seem to have that here.
You might be better trying to find out the identity of the drum case manufacturer and working back. Have you tried old trade or music magazines?
Factory is no longer there. All manufacturers of these products do not know of one that was in London in the 80s. However I went to one, after getting off the train at Paddington main station an picked up my case from this factory an took it all the way back home, also on the train.
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There was no subway, only a high embankment off the rd.
No bridges or tunnels to go thro.
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This is interesting, but it doesn't help me.https://en-gb.topographic-map.com/map-kffs8/London/
'Googling' (other search engines available) on < vulcanised fibre case> took me to several images of such cases- do you recall what your case looked like- any size, colour, label, handle?
I imagine there my be some specialist/ collector/ association- though I don't know how you wold find them? How about an Auction House? BBC Antiques Roadshow/ Road Trip etc ...?
I did try adding 'London' or 'Middlesex' to the search to no avail, eg Shalford's a long way out near Guildford, and is flat, with a bridge nearby!
When was this? Kelly's Business Directory may help? I sense you need to use a range of research/ local history skills and/or people to assist you. Your local library? Wishing you well in your quest.
If you had a shortlist of possible business locations in London, some of our forum members might be able to think of nearby stations that might match your description.
'Googling' (other search engines available) on < vulcanised fibre case> took me to several images of such cases- do you recall what your case looked like- any size, colour, label, handle?
I imagine there my be some specialist/ collector/ association- though I don't know how you wold find them? How about an Auction House? BBC Antiques Roadshow/ Road Trip etc ...?
I did try adding 'London' or 'Middlesex' to the search to no avail, eg Shalford's a long way out near Guildford, and is flat, with a bridge nearby!
When was this? Kelly's Business Directory may help? I sense you need to use a range of research/ local history skills and/or people to assist you. Your local library? Wishing you well in your quest.
The case was blue, it was a large pack n roll rectangular case on large castor wheels. which contained a large kick pad an smaller pads in front of it with a lift out case for the brain.
Thanks for ur help anyway.
Its means that when I got off the station, there was no bridges or tunnels on the rd. The road ran along the bottom of the station which was on a steep embankment.
Thats the part I cannot find. No suggestions so far seem to describe a station like that.
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If you had a shortlist of possible business locations in London, some of our forum members might be able to think of nearby stations that might match your description.
Yeh, had a look, they request a fee, to do a search, once u pay: They will continue searching until the payment u made runs out. Then to continue further searching...
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In your OP you say that you did find it on Google Maps once, apart from the clues you ha.ve given here can you remember anything else about how you found it that time? What search engine do you use and what terms ight you have entered? This may be of more help than a 30-40 year memory.
In your OP you say that you did find it on Google Maps once, apart from the clues you ha.ve given here can you remember anything else about how you found it that time? What search engine do you use and what terms ight you have entered? This may be of more help than a 30-40 year memory.
I assume you've contacted current British firms who make such cases (I found quite a few on Google); eg Wiseman Cases, Franklin Road, SE20? Weren't they able to help?
Sounds like South Greenford to me. On grassed embankment (then- overgrown now), lots of industry nearby, only problem is the road at the bottom is the A40 and runs at right angles to the railway.
I assume you've contacted current British firms who make such cases (I found quite a few on Google); eg Wiseman Cases, Franklin Road, SE20? Weren't they able to help?
If I've got this right, you came into Paddington on the main line, took a tube, and then a suburban train.
South of the Thames, Nunhead and Catford (from Blackfriars) would fit your description, also Eltham and Welling (Charing X), Birkbeck or Carshalton (Victoria or London Br) and Barnes Bridge (Waterloo).
In NE London, Bruce Grove and Walthamstow St James St (Liverpool St) might fit.
Sorry, no it wasn't. "London Overground" as a brand did not exist until 2007. "Over ground" (two words) describes many stations that are not part of the "London Overground" network (including many on the London Underground!) And there was no service between Olympia and Willesden Junction until 1994
Some of the BR/NR stations south of the river were branded as "Overground Network" well before the TfL version was introduced. I remember such signage on the bridge at Barnes station, though it had gone by the time of the first Google Streetview photos in 2008 (presumably because TfL were using it by then).
I think it was probably used in the late 80s and/or 90s, but it's difficult to search for on line as results are swamped by the later version.
Edit: I'm wrong, it was used 2003 to 2006, so not relevant.
Catford seems unlikely, as Catford Bridge is next door (but not on an embankment) and eassier to reach from Paddington (Tube to Charing Cross, whereas Blackfriars or Victoria need a change).
If I've got this right, you came into Paddington on the main line, took a tube, and then a suburban train.
South of the Thames, Nunhead and Catford (from Blackfriars) would fit your description, also Eltham and Welling (Charing X), Birkbeck or Carshalton (Victoria or London Br) and Barnes Bridge (Waterloo).
In NE London, Bruce Grove and Walthamstow St James St (Liverpool St) might fit.
Catford seems unlikely, as Catford Bridge is next door (but not on an embankment) and eassier to reach from Paddington (Tube to Charing Cross, whereas Blackfriars or Victoria need a change).
Just to clarify - was the factory that you collected from near a tube station - so you got the train to Paddington, then a tube*, and then walked to the factory to collect?
And if so, can you remember if you got a direct train to that tube station from Paddington?
If the answer to both questions is 'yes' that cuts down the search space that we're trying to help you with by quite a lot!
*I'm taking 'tube' to cover all London Underground services and not to exclude the sub-surface lines.
What may help.... if someone could make a list of all the stations in the likely area and then strike through the ones we know it cannot be ( e.g. if they're on the level or in a cutting or something )?
We can then concentrate on the ones that are not struck through and strike through more as we go along and eliminate them.
Eventually, we will narrow it down to a manageable number that would be feasible to search older pictures of...
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