Stagecoach Yorkshire and Chesterfield

[Mugby]

I had a ride on the X17 from Matlock to Chesterfield on Saturday, first time I've seen the E400EVs.
Obviously only a few months old so how come they are in the predominantly white, 'modified beach ball' colours? What's become of the new, dark blue livery?

 

[florence]

I had a ride on the X17 from Matlock to Chesterfield on Saturday, first time I've seen the E400EVs.
Obviously only a few months old so how come they are in the predominantly white, 'modified beach ball' colours? What's become of the new, dark blue livery?

I believe they were possibly the last vehicles delivered in that livery.

 

[Teapot42]

.. how come they are in the predominantly white, 'modified beach ball' colours? What's become of the new, dark blue livery?

From what I'd read, the new livery hadn't been fully approved and signed off by the time they needed to start painting, so the old livery was used instead.

Slightly odd that they chose that rather than the Electro livery used for the Rotherham Yutongs though.

 

[Hyebone]

Slightly odd that they chose that rather than the Electro livery used for the Rotherham Yutongs though.

That's a SYMCA scheme

 

[mk1979]

Officially the predominantly white livery launched in 2019 is known as "Stagecoach Local". The E400EV's were ordered and in build before the livery change.

Electro is a joint brand between Stagecoach and SYMCA so can only be used in South Yorkshire.

Let's see what liveries our next electrics arrive in.

 

[JD2168]

Looking at BusTimes.org Stagecoach have cancelled the 141/142/143/143a services from October/November

 

[Mugby]

Looking at BusTimes.org Stagecoach have cancelled the 141/142/143/143a services from October/November

Sounds like they've either lost the contract or decided they no longer wish to continue with it.

Should be interesting to see who replaces them, there's really only two serious contenders and I think we all know who they are!

 

[m79900]

Looking at BusTimes.org Stagecoach have cancelled the 141/142/143/143a services from October/November

Interesting that they're retaining the 140?

 

[mk1979]

Looking at BusTimes.org Stagecoach have cancelled the 141/142/143/143a services from October/November

Contract is out to retender at the moment. Cancellation will be reversed if we retain it.

 

[317 forever]

Looking at BusTimes.org Stagecoach have cancelled the 141/142/143/143a services from October/November

Weren't those contracts merely gained as a result of the collapse of Your Bus?

 

[Skymonster]

Weren't those contracts merely gained as a result of the collapse of Your Bus?

The services have, over the last couple of years, been operated by Littles, TM Travel, Notts & Derby (school holidays only), TM Travel, Derbyshire Community Transport, and now Stagecoach.

 

[Llandudno]

Contract is out to retender at the moment. Cancellation will be reversed if we retain it.

Fingers crossed that you (Stagecoach) retain it as the services are now extremely reliable!

 

[ChrisC]

Fingers crossed that you (Stagecoach) retain it as the services are now extremely reliable!

I understand that as tendered routes the timetables are probably determined and fixed by Derbyshire County Council. It would be useful and make travel more attractive if there was more coordination especially between the 140 and 143 timetables. Whenever I travel from the Mansfield area to Matlock I usually end up travelling via Chesterfield using the Pronto and X17. From where I live in Nottinghamshire, via Alfreton would be more convenient, but I just lose patience trying to work out the times from the irregular timetables especially for the return journey in the afternoon.

 

[py_megapixel]

Was looking at the map earlier and spotted that the 65 route was apparently all Yutongs today - hadn't realised that had gone electric yet. I noticed one that Bustimes reckoned had been sat in Litton village for over an hour, which is curious (if accurate - could just be a tracking error).

I'll have to go for a trip on the 65 at some point if it's now electric - it's a beautiful scenic route but its allocation of Enviro 200s felt really quite noticeably tired.

 

[Llandudno]

Was looking at the map earlier and spotted that the 65 route was apparently all Yutongs today - hadn't realised that had gone electric yet. I noticed one that Bustimes reckoned had been sat in Litton village for over an hour, which is curious (if accurate - could just be a tracking error).

I'll have to go for a trip on the 65 at some point if it's now electric - it's a beautiful scenic route but its allocation of Enviro 200s felt really quite noticeably tired.

I think the 65 is only electrified on Sundays as there are spare vehicles available?

 

[JD2168]

I think the 65 is only electrified on Sundays as there are spare vehicles available?

Whenever I see the 65 on Monday to Saturday it is anything from a Solo to an Enviro 300 but always tends to be diesel run. The 65 buses on Monday to Saturday run through to Meadowhall instead of terminating at Sheffield Interchange & stay on the route all day

 

[mk1979]

65 is booked Yutong on a Sunday, was part of the original Zebra2 bid.

Availability on the EV's remains very impressive, on Friday lunchtime Yutong availability was 97.6% with only 1 off for warranty work at Pelican. ADL E400EV availability was 89.7% with 4 off, 2 for routine inspections and 2 for RTC damage. The E400EV's are now proving to be very reliable following the latest updates.

 

[syjunkie]

37098 was involved in a rtc on saturday

 

[Llandudno]

65 is booked Yutong on a Sunday, was part of the original Zebra2 bid.

Availability on the EV's remains very impressive, on Friday lunchtime Yutong availability was 97.6% with only 1 off for warranty work at Pelican. ADL E400EV availability was 89.7% with 4 off, 2 for routine inspections and 2 for RTC damage. The E400EV's are now proving to be very reliable following the latest updates.

Great news, they are a pleasure to travel on!

 

[ALEMASTER]

I understand that as tendered routes the timetables are probably determined and fixed by Derbyshire County Council. It would be useful and make travel more attractive if there was more coordination especially between the 140 and 143 timetables. Whenever I travel from the Mansfield area to Matlock I usually end up travelling via Chesterfield using the Pronto and X17. From where I live in Nottinghamshire, via Alfreton would be more convenient, but I just lose patience trying to work out the times from the irregular timetables especially for the return journey in the afternoon.

Was having a conversation today when it was suggested it would be great if some X17 journeys run through to Crich tramway village. Suspect the commercial viability might not be so good though!

 

[route101]

I took the X17 from Barnsley to Chesterfield other week. At Chesterfield I had to change onto another E400EV. Timetable said it runs through to Matlock. Is that normal?

 

[ALEMASTER]

I took the X17 from Barnsley to Chesterfield other week. At Chesterfield I had to change onto another E400EV. Timetable said it runs through to Matlock. Is that normal?

The depot is in Chesterfield so if a vehicle needs swapping out for whatever reason that would be an obvious place to do so!

 

[Llandudno]

Was having a conversation today when it was suggested it would be great if some X17 journeys run through to Crich tramway village. Suspect the commercial viability might not be so good though!

There are regular buses to Crich from Matlock (connecting with the X17) now operating reliably thanks to Stagecoach taking over the DCC contract, let’s hope they successfully retain the contract in November.

Unfortunately there are no buses to Crich on Sundays which is probably the Tramway Museum’s most popular day!

 

[py_megapixel]

Does anyone know what's happening with Sheffield route 7? There are some gas works closing a very short section of road in Neepsend. While First is dealing with this by means of a minor diversion(it only affects two stops in each direction), Stagecoach is bypassing Neepsend entirely on Penistone Road.

Quite aside from the Stagecoach diversion appearing to be an enormous overreaction to the matter at hand... would it really be too much to ask for the companies to talk to each other and and agree on one diversion for the whole of the affected service, rather than artificially inconveniencing passengers even more by splitting it between two roads?

 

[darylyates17]

Are 28677 & 28678 still transferring to Gillmoss?

 

[Killingworth]

On Friday was impressed that almost every Stagecoach bus we saw in the North Wingfield and Chesterfield areas was an all electric Alexander Dennis Enviro400EV - in immaculate condition appearing to be straight out of the box.

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[Hyebone]

On Friday was impressed that almost every Stagecoach bus we saw in the North Wingfield and Chesterfield areas was an all electric Alexander Dennis Enviro400EV - in immaculate condition appearing to be straight out of the box.

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I am a fan of the way they look and perform (after the updates they received)

 

[tram21]

Unfortunately there are no buses to Crich on Sundays which is probably the Tramway Museum’s most popular day!

Our most popular day is probably Saturday, but it'd be really great to see better buses, and a Sunday service.

 

[m79900]

Is the general consensus that the ADL's are decent vehicles then? That has to bode well for the future of the company.

 

[43055]

Whilst up at the Ecclesboune Valley Railway today I was pleased to see and picked up a 'Peak District and Derbyshire Dales' guide in the leaflet rack which is similar to the lake district guide. It also details other operators services from the key destinations which you don't often see.