Whilst there are some companies that do this, isn't the "official name" the NAPTAN name? I notice that Bustimes uses "St Dunstan's, after Westgate Towers", whereas Google Maps just used "Westgate Towers".They also don’t announce the entire official stop name which I find is information overload - for example, the system announces “Westgate Towers” instead of the official name “St Dunstan’s, after Westgate Towers”.
The E400MMCs you mention at Dover - the 116xx batch - do indeed have the older screens, but I've not seen one working yet since the verbal announcements went live. Maybe I was just unlucky - but it was notable that the announcements do have a habit of glitching, and apparently turn off when the doors close, so they are all too often truncated too!The 4 Enviro400MMCs 11556-9 new for the Canterbury Park & Ride (which were recently displaced by nearly-new ex Bee Network MMCs) have since been put to work on Herne Bay’s other routes, mostly the 400/600 etc. The next stop displays and announcements have been quickly adapted for these routes. They are the higher quality computer screens rather than the dot matrix (not sure of the exact terminology!). The announcements sound good, rather than completely robotic, the screens are clear, and the screens show at least 2 or 3 upcoming stops rather than just the next stop - I find this far more useful. They also don’t announce the entire official stop name which I find is information overload - for example, the system announces “Westgate Towers” instead of the official name “St Dunstan’s, after Westgate Towers”. The system appears more reliable than South East’s other examples - The E200MMCs on the Thanet Loop seem to often have them switched off, only half working (announcements but no display) or it just cuts out randomly. This seems a big improvement.
I was even more impressed to see the display working on routes other than just the main 400/600 etc route - these buses have been occasionally appearing on other routes such as the 5, Uni2 and the system has been working on those routes. So, well done Stagecoach, I’m pleased to see how well it is working.
Interestingly, the newer E400MMCs at Dover have the older style dot matrix display rather than the better quality screens - hopefully the newer screens will be the default now.
I’ve been waiting to see this sort of next stop display on UK buses for years, which I’ve seen in places like Germany and Poland for a while now. Really user friendly in my opinion and I enjoy seeing/hearing the stop names rather than following the route on my phone.
If that's the case, it beggars belief that one year-old vehicles were installed with screens that are already non-compliant...Any bus on regular service use that was built since 2019 needs to comply with the new AIR next stop announcements regulations from this month. I'm sure, but not certain, that the scrolling dot matrix style screens are non compliant hence the new LCD screens with compliant font sizes etc.
The whole thing has stagnated as far as I know. Use to commute on the 34 (mid 20 teens) when it was still allocated a decker, and justifiably so in the peak/school run times. Sometime round about 2014 or so, my memory is a bit vague, the route went over to single deck only under Arriva. Being from the transport industry myself I got to know some of the drivers, who use to say how Arriva had wound down things at GF, and they were struggling to keep vehicles on the road. Only here-say perhaps, but some of their buses sounded like a bag of nails on some days. Stagecoach taking over was a very welcome bit of news as far as I was concerned (I might have been biased at that time), but as of today their buses appear/sound to be in far better condition than the Arriva examples of yester-year.It is believed that the whole scheme is cancelled or at least 'deferred' - Woking Borough Council is teetering on the edge of bankruptcy,
It's not true. The minimum font size is 22mm, which means many dot matrix displays can actually display two lines of information.If that's the case, it beggars belief that one year-old vehicles were installed with screens that are already non-compliant...
Not quite sure of this myself.Whilst there are some companies that do this, isn't the "official name" the NAPTAN name? I notice that Bustimes uses "St Dunstan's, after Westgate Towers", whereas Google Maps just used "Westgate Towers".
A good example there of the opposite. This is why local knowledge is really important. A couple of stops in a small village probably should also include the village name, whereas in a large town or city you probably don’t need to mention the town/city at every stop. It appears Stagecoach have used some local knowledge here, though I’m interested to travel on that batch on some other routes to see/hear what they do for certain stops.It's probably a good thing generally to avoid the initial qualifiers where they can be dropped - especially in a city like Canterbury, where almost everywhere could plausibly begin with a St Something! -, not least because the stop after is St Dunstan's [Church], and much more associated with the name, in my experience.
By contrast (and just as a counterpoint, rather than a desire to go more generally off topic), I remember a journey on Metrobus 291 some years ago which didn't refer to village names at all, and thus had a number of stops called useful things like "Petrol Station", "War Memorial" and "Fire Station". Yes... which village's petrol station, war memorial or fire station! (There is more than one of each along the route).
Indeed, it appears is is very unreliable on this batch at Dover. I’ve occasionally seen it working on the 16 route, but not when they are on other routes (and sometimes not at all on the 16). This is why I was sceptical of the 11556-9 batch working properly, but it appears reliable on these - I’m not sure what is causing the difference of reliability.The E400MMCs you mention at Dover - the 116xx batch - do indeed have the older screens, but I've not seen one working yet since the verbal announcements went live. Maybe I was just unlucky - but it was notable that the announcements do have a habit of glitching, and apparently turn off when the doors close, so they are all too often truncated too!
Thank you for this information, interesting to know.It's not true. The minimum font size is 22mm, which means many dot matrix displays can actually display two lines of information.
The screens in the ex-Canterbury Park & Ride buses were to a higher spec, as they were diverted from their intended home of the Jet 727 in Aberdeen.
The screens in the current Canterbury Park & Ride fleet are different again, meeting the specification set by Transport for Greater Manchester.
| Route number | Route description | Details |
| D Fastrack | Whitfield - Dover Castle - Dover Town Centre - Dover Priory Railway Station | Fastrack will operate 7 days a week, with buses every 20 minutes on Mondays to Saturdays and hourly on Sundays. The route will use some new roads, as well as dedicated busways which will give the buses priority over other traffic. The Fastrack project is a partnership between Kent County Council, Dover District Council, and Stagecoach. View the new Fastrack timetable here. |
| 12 | Deal - Walmer - Whitfield - Canterbury | There will be a new timetable for this service. Buses will run hourly on Mondays to Saturdays, but with an extra journey during the afternoon school-time peak. View the new 12 timetable here. |
| 15 | Dover - Lydden - Canterbury | Some bus times will be adjusted. View the new 15 timetable here. |
| 61 | Whitfield - Melbourne Avenue - Buckland Valley - Dover Town Centre | This service will operate on a changed route. It will no longer serve North Whitfield due to the introduction of Fastrack and will operate between Dover town centre, Whitfield Tesco, and Menzies Road. It will also serve Buckland Valley (Roosevelt Road and Friars Way) replacing route 62. View the new 61 timetable here. |
| 62 | Buckland Valley - Dover Town Centre | This service will be replaced by route 61. Buses will no longer serve The Linces due to safety issues caused by parked vehicles. |
| 63 | Tower Hamlets - Elms Vale - Dover Priory Railway Station - Dover Town Centre | Some bus times will be adjusted. View the new 63 timetable here. |
| 64 | River - St Radigund's - Buckland Hospital - Dover Town Centre | This route will be split into two dedicated services. The 64 will operate hourly between River and Dover town centre, serving Market Square before continuing into Pencester Road. Sadly the number of passengers using the service to River is very small and does not support the cost of providing two buses an hour. The new hourly frequency will help reduce costs to a more sustainable level. A service to Aycliffe will be provided by new route 65. View the new 64 timetable here. |
| 65 (NEW) | Aycliffe - Dover Town Centre | Route 65 offers a new dedicated service between Aycliffe and Dover town centre (replacing a section of route 64). Buses will continue to provide a 30-minute frequency service. View the new 65 timetable here. |
| 91 | Folkestone - Alkham - Dover | Some bus times will be adjusted. View the new 91 timetable here. |
| 102 | Dover - Folkestone - Hythe - Romney Marsh | Please see below. |
| School-time service 95 | Aylesham - Nonington - Sandwich Technology School | Some bus times will be adjusted. View the new 95 timetable here. |
| School-time services 980, 981, and 983 | Aylesham/Elvington and Villages to and from Dover Schools | Bus times will be adjusted. |
| Route number | Route description | Details |
| 10/10A | Folkestone - Hythe - Ashford | Some evening bus times will be adjusted. View the new 10 and 10A timetables here. |
| 16 | Folkestone - Hawkinge - Canterbury | Some bus times will be adjusted and this service will now operate independently which means it won't be affected by delays elsewhere on the bus network. This will help improve timekeeping and reliability. View the new route 16 timetable here. |
| 19 | Swingfield - Hawkinge - Folkestone | The early morning route 19 bus from Swingfield will no longer operate. Sadly this journey carries too few passengers to be sustainable. |
| 71/71A | Cheriton - Folkestone Town Centre | There are no changes to the timetable, but this service will now operate independently which means it won’t be affected by delays elsewhere on the bus network. This will help improve timekeeping and reliability. |
| 76 | Creteway Down - East Cliff Stanbury Crescent - Joyes Road - Folkestone Town Centre | Route 76 will no longer operate and the section around Stanbury Crescent will be covered by the new route 105. Buses will no longer go down Joyes Road. 105 buses will operate every 30-minutes serving Hill Road and Stanbury Crescent, and providing connections to Folkestone town centre and Dover. Please see route 105 below for the new timetable. |
| 102 | Dover - Folkestone - Hythe - Romney Marsh | Please see below. |
| Route number | Route description | Details |
| 102 | Folkestone - Hythe - New Romney - Lydd | The 102 will provide an hourly service between Lydd and Folkestone, it will also now serve Folkestone Central Railway Station and Folkestone Harbour. Coupled with its new sister service, the 103, there will be a combined frequency of buses approximately every 30 minutes. |
| 103 | Folkestone - Hythe - New Romney - Greatstone - Lydd-on-Sea | The 103 will provide an hourly service between Lydd-on-Sea, Greatstone, and Folkestone. It will also serve Folkestone Central Railway Station and Folkestone Harbour. |
| 104 | Dover - Folkestone - Hythe | The new route 104 will provide buses on a 30-minute frequency, which, combined with its new sister service, the 105, will offer buses every 15 minutes between Folkestone and Dover. The 104 will also serve Folkestone Central Railway Station and Folkestone Harbour in both directions. |
| 105 | Dover - Folkestone | This new service will operate between Folkestone and Dover via East Cliff (Stanbury Crescent) every 30 minutes. It will only serve Folkestone Harbour on the way from Dover towards Folkestone town centre. |
| View the new 102 and 103 timetable here. View the new 104 and 105 timetable here. |
“I completely understand the local disappointment and frustration over Stagecoach’s decision to change bus services in Dover.”
“It has always been KCC’s ambition to make public transport more reliable for residents, which is what Dover Fastrack is built to provide – however, it is clear from these commercial developments that some local communities will be left out of having a service.”
“Following conversations we’ve had with Stagecoach, we will be providing an additional timetabled bus service for the area affected in north Whitfield using Bus Service Improvement Plan funding.”
“We have also had confirmation from Stagecoach that the operating hours of Dover Fastrack will be extended to coincide with the London high speed timetable in 2025.”
“We, along with our partners behind the project, are hopeful that Dover Fastrack will reach its full potential in connecting communities and providing residents with reliable public transport services.”
This appears remarkably proactive from Kent County Council, which, in my opinion, is not often the case with public transport.Press release from Kent County Council in light of the announced changes:
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Kent County Council's statement on Dover Fastrack
Following the public concern about Stagecoach's changes to bus services in Dover, Kent County Council (KCC) Cabinet Member for Highways & Transport, Neil Baker, has released the following statement:news.kent.gov.uk
So similar to what they did with the 700 between Portsmouth & Brighton, other than renumbering the various parts?Coastal Services - Dover, Folkestone, Hythe, and Romney Marsh
The 102 service will become four routes; 102, 103, 104 and 105. Each of these routes, together with the existing route 100, will cover a section of the coast. This new arrangement is carefully designed to make sure we’re offering journey options to suit you.
There are new connections – such as between Hythe, Sandgate, Folkestone Central Rail Station and Folkestone Harbour - and where routes overlap, they provide a higher frequency service where demand is greatest.

I’m hoping to visit if I have enough time. Be aware it’s just an hourly service on Sundays though.Is anyone planning to try out the Dover Fastrack service next Sunday?
Probably a ticket machine change. May just be an Enviro 200MMC.Presumably, this isn't actually a Decker on the 17? https://bustimes.org/vehicles/scpy-10962
Isn’t the low bridge at Horsham - it hasn’t been there, so it could be?Presumably, this isn't actually a Decker on the 17? https://bustimes.org/vehicles/scpy-10962