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Fleet movements for Carlisle:
14202 to Disposals.
52409 to Aberdeen.
52629 from CE/Res.

Fleet movements for Lillyhall:
16714 to LL/Res (for refurbishment)
16733 from LL/Res (from refurbishment)
90586 (W332 RHH) to Disposal
95196 (YH58 EHZ) to Merseyside
95233 (YC60ZJJ) from Merseyside.

Fleet movements for Barrow:
52291 (trainer coach) from Disposals.

Fleet movements for Chorley:
47001 from CY/Res.

No movements for Kendal, Morecambe or Preston.

Other movements:
14193 to Disposals
14247 from CE/Res to LL/Res
20127 to Disposals
20129 to Disposals
20134 to Disposals
20859 to Disposals
33143 to Disposals
52189 Sold
52408 from Disposals to Aberdeen.
 

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35249 replaced 47007 on 51 this morning, seemingly went back on later today according to cainebj.
16733 was on a 48 this morning. 52635 on annex.
47005 was on the 58... fun!

All Scania's on 300 - 15686 was my bus to Carlisle with 15684 being my bus back

Allocations which stood out/worth mentioning in Carlisle:
33161 on the 69
52629 on a 179
16397 on a 554
34689 on a 38
20924 on a 63
20966 on a 66
34214 on doing short 685!
34048 sat in the bus station all day it seemed

Passed a MAN E300 running dead to Maryport at 1620

47059 on last normal 50 of the day (1930) -likely to be out on Workington Evening services
 
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Does anyone know where 16103 has gone? I was told it had been picked up from Morecambe but no idea where it went to...

Nothing to report today from what I've seen.

Also is there any fresh news on whether SCNW will receive any more Olys from Manchester?
 

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Period 9 fleetcards available at the usual place. Nothing exciting at all to report on them. It's been a quiet month, though it looks like we're having a B10M clearout!
 

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Does anyone know where 16103 has gone? I was told it had been picked up from Morecambe but no idea where it went to...

Lillyhall were due another decker. There was a man walking around Workington Bus Station this afternoon carrying trade plates, didn't catch what was on them. Maybe been brought up here as the expected bus? Not sure if the man was from Stagecoach or not. I didn't recognise him, and he looked a little lost. He had a jacket on, so couldn't see if it was a Stagecoach uniform, or just a general suit wearing man!
 

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  • Transport group to buy 360 buses and coaches for UK regions
  • Fleet of 160 vehicles to be leased for London operations
  • Passengers across UK benefit from investment in greener buses
  • Orders bring UK spend on new vehicles in past four years to nearly £290m

Stagecoach Group today (Wednesday 12 January) announced multi-million-pound plans to buy and lease a total of more than 520 new buses and coaches for its operations across the UK in 2011-12.

The Perth-based transport group is investing £52million in 360 new buses and coaches for the coming financial year. These vehicles will be introduced in the company's regional bus networks across the UK, further improving the standard of travel for passengers in Scotland, England and Wales.

Stagecoach has also confirmed plans to lease more than 160 new state-of-the-art vehicles for its bus operations in London, which were acquired in October 2010.

The new orders follow an annual tendering process and all of the vehicles meet the latest Euro 5 emissions standards. The latest boost for passengers is in
addition to investment in more than 60 hybrid electric buses, which was announced late last year.

It will mean Stagecoach is now buying or leasing more than 580 new buses and coaches for the UK in the 2011-12 financial year and the company's investment in
new vehicles outside London over four years will reach nearly £290million.

Les Warneford, Managing Director of Stagecoach UK Bus, said: "As well as offering the best value bus fares in Britain, we are driving up the quality of
travel for our customers by investing in greener vehicles, better facilities and improved services.

"Minimising carbon emissions is a key factor in our investment programme. We want to play our part in reducing the impact of travel on the environment. We
believe there is a big opportunity to attract car users to the benefits of greener, smarter bus travel and cut our own carbon footprint."

Vehicle manufacturers ADL, Scania, Plaxton and Volvo will supply a total of 255 double-deckers, 74 single-deckers, 166 midi-buses, 28 coaches and 64 Hybrid
vehicles. The new vehicles are expected to go into service by April 2012.

Details of the new orders are as follows:

UK Bus operations outside London:
  • 127 ADL Enviro 200 midibuses
  • 91 ADL Scania Enviro 400 double-deckers
  • 50 ADL Scania Enviro 300 single-deckers
  • 40 ADL Enviro 400 double-deckers
  • 24 ADL Enviro 300 single-deckers
  • 28 Plaxton Volvo coaches
  • 47 ADL Enviro 400 Hybrid double-deckers (26 for Newcastle, 21 for Sheffield)
  • 17 ADL Enviro 200 Hybrid midibuses (8 for West Scotland, 9 for Perth)
London Bus operations:
  • 124 ADL Enviro 400 double-deckers
  • 39 ADL Enviro 200 midibuses

Stagecoach has also been leading the UK with the introduction of green hybrid electric buses. It is already running vehicles using the technology, which produces 30% less carbon emissions than standard buses, in Oxford and Manchester.

As previously announced, the company is making a £9million investment in 47 state-of-the-art electric-hybrid buses for Sheffield and Newcastle, part-funded by support package of more than £4million from the Department for Transport's Green Bus Fund.

In Scotland, Stagecoach is also investing £2.4million in a new fleet of 17 hybrid diesel electric vehicles, following an award from the Scottish Government's Green Bus Fund of around £1.5m million in support funding.

Stagecoach is officially Britain's best value major bus operator, according to independent transport consultants TAS, with fares up to 30% cheaper than the UK's other major transport groups.

http://www.stagecoachplc.com/scg/ir/newsevents/rns/rnsitem?id=3965006 [Story Link]

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Nothing from the humble Optare it seems! ADL all the way it seems and splash out on the Enviro 200's!
AND Scania on an Enviro 300 body!

Scania Press Release: http://www.cisionwire.com/scania/scania-to-deliver-141-buses-to-stagecoach-group-in-the-uk72252
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
20473 on 50 seen a child-buggy user struggling to fold up their buggy with large hand fulls of shopping whist holding onto the child :roll: a buggy already folded in the baggage area too
47006 on 51
 
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  • Transport group to buy 360 buses and coaches for UK regions
  • Fleet of 160 vehicles to be leased for London operations
  • Passengers across UK benefit from investment in greener buses
  • Orders bring UK spend on new vehicles in past four years to nearly £290m

Stagecoach Group today (Wednesday 12 January) announced multi-million-pound plans to buy and lease a total of more than 520 new buses and coaches for its operations across the UK in 2011-12.

The Perth-based transport group is investing £52million in 360 new buses and coaches for the coming financial year. These vehicles will be introduced in the company's regional bus networks across the UK, further improving the standard of travel for passengers in Scotland, England and Wales.

Stagecoach has also confirmed plans to lease more than 160 new state-of-the-art vehicles for its bus operations in London, which were acquired in October 2010.

The new orders follow an annual tendering process and all of the vehicles meet the latest Euro 5 emissions standards. The latest boost for passengers is in
addition to investment in more than 60 hybrid electric buses, which was announced late last year.

It will mean Stagecoach is now buying or leasing more than 580 new buses and coaches for the UK in the 2011-12 financial year and the company's investment in
new vehicles outside London over four years will reach nearly £290million.

Les Warneford, Managing Director of Stagecoach UK Bus, said: "As well as offering the best value bus fares in Britain, we are driving up the quality of
travel for our customers by investing in greener vehicles, better facilities and improved services.

"Minimising carbon emissions is a key factor in our investment programme. We want to play our part in reducing the impact of travel on the environment. We
believe there is a big opportunity to attract car users to the benefits of greener, smarter bus travel and cut our own carbon footprint."

Vehicle manufacturers ADL, Scania, Plaxton and Volvo will supply a total of 255 double-deckers, 74 single-deckers, 166 midi-buses, 28 coaches and 64 Hybrid
vehicles. The new vehicles are expected to go into service by April 2012.

Details of the new orders are as follows:

UK Bus operations outside London:
  • 127 ADL Enviro 200 midibuses
  • 91 ADL Scania Enviro 400 double-deckers
  • 50 ADL Scania Enviro 300 single-deckers
  • 40 ADL Enviro 400 double-deckers
  • 24 ADL Enviro 300 single-deckers
  • 28 Plaxton Volvo coaches
  • 47 ADL Enviro 400 Hybrid double-deckers (26 for Newcastle, 21 for Sheffield)
  • 17 ADL Enviro 200 Hybrid midibuses (8 for West Scotland, 9 for Perth)
London Bus operations:
  • 124 ADL Enviro 400 double-deckers
  • 39 ADL Enviro 200 midibuses

Stagecoach has also been leading the UK with the introduction of green hybrid electric buses. It is already running vehicles using the technology, which produces 30% less carbon emissions than standard buses, in Oxford and Manchester.

As previously announced, the company is making a £9million investment in 47 state-of-the-art electric-hybrid buses for Sheffield and Newcastle, part-funded by support package of more than £4million from the Department for Transport's Green Bus Fund.

In Scotland, Stagecoach is also investing £2.4million in a new fleet of 17 hybrid diesel electric vehicles, following an award from the Scottish Government's Green Bus Fund of around £1.5m million in support funding.

Stagecoach is officially Britain's best value major bus operator, according to independent transport consultants TAS, with fares up to 30% cheaper than the UK's other major transport groups.

http://www.stagecoachplc.com/scg/ir/newsevents/rns/rnsitem?id=3965006 [Story Link]

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Nothing from the humble Optare it seems! ADL all the way it seems and splash out on the Enviro 200's!
AND Scania on an Enviro 300 body!

Scania Press Release: http://www.cisionwire.com/scania/scania-to-deliver-141-buses-to-stagecoach-group-in-the-uk72252
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20473 on 50 seen a child-buggy user struggling to fold up their buggy with large hand fulls of shopping whist holding onto the child :roll: a buggy already folded in the baggage area too
47006 on 51

Anybody know if the depots know what they are getting yet? By that I mean any hints from people in the know lol?
 

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Does anyone know where 16103 has gone? I was told it had been picked up from Morecambe but no idea where it went to...

Nothing to report today from what I've seen.

Also is there any fresh news on whether SCNW will receive any more Olys from Manchester?

Sat on the pits when I went down for some eggs earlier on
 

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Anybody know if the depots know what they are getting yet? By that I mean any hints from people in the know lol?

Can straight away assume nothing will be coming Lillyhall's way! :lol:
But yeah, if anyone in the know knows ;)....

22599 it appeared to have broken down on Newlands Lane in Workington (1145) whist I was driving around. Front end in one of the parking bays, back end covering one side of the road (Moorclose to Honister Drive direction). Engine off, displays still showing "Maryport 31". My driving instructor said it was there when he was on the way to picking me up 10 mins earlier. A police car was behind it. 22610 was the next bus comiing behind in the distance and I assume passengers were moved onto the other MAN. Bus and police car gone when I returned at 1230.
 
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34218 and 47060 Harrington.
20945 (with folded up pushchairs) and 47024 Seaton.
20962 30/31, with 34616 and 35246.
17017 300.
34215 short 300.
35247 and 35248 on 31A.
35249 on 2.
47616 on 1.
47023 on 3.
47061 on 4.
16733 on 22.
47005 on Maryport Town.
47007 on 58.
20923 on ASDA Free Bus.

14257 on 48.
16184 on annexe this morning with 14257, 14258 and 22598.
22596 and 22598 on annexe just a few minutes ago.

Leaves the missing minibuses as 34079, 47059, 47062 and 47617.
 
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34218 and 47060 Harrington.
20945 (with folded up pushchairs) and 47024 Seaton.
20962 30/31, with 34616 and 35246.
17017 300.
34215 short 300.
35247 and 35248 on 31A.
35249 on 2.
47616 on 1.
47023 on 3.
47061 on 4.
16733 on 22.
47005 on Maryport Town.
47007 on 58.
20923 on ASDA Free Bus.

14257 on 48.
16184 on annexe this morning with 14257, 14258 and 22598.
22596 and 22598 on annexe just a few minutes ago.

Leaves the missing minibuses as 34079, 47059, 47062 and 47617.

I seen 34218 on Harrington on way back, no spottings for me tonight because i am too busy revising for tommorows science gcse.
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47006 also missing tut tut...
 

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20994 on 30 when I went to the bus station for the 1630 Moorclose 51!
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Leaves the missing minibuses as 34079, 47059, 47062 and 47617.
47059 was around yesterday evening
47062 last noted on 28th December
34079 21st December paha

Wish we would have an explanation where they actually go! :lol:
 
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Saw the side of 20994 in Whitehaven, wasn't sure what it was on. It had gone by the time I got to the bus stops to see it.

Ahh thought it has just been shoved on randomly late in the day! Been a while since I've seen it about, strangely the time I see it its on the 30/31...
22599 was back in service this afternoon (probably seen) after what ever occurred this morning :lol:
 

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Had a brief meet with Forum members Mbonwick, Cainebj and Mattdw92 in Lancaster this afternoon. Not much to report apart from 22816 been shoved on 7 Vale which is a very rare working!
 

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Had a brief meet with Forum members Mbonwick, Cainebj and Mattdw92 in Lancaster this afternoon. Not much to report apart from 22816 been shoved on 7 Vale which is a very rare working!

there was a B10b on the vale service on tuesday night went past the train station just before 6pm dont know how they get round some of the estates the corners are that tight.
 

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Had a brief meet with Forum members Mbonwick, Cainebj and Mattdw92 in Lancaster this afternoon. Not much to report apart from 22816 been shoved on 7 Vale which is a very rare working!

Was nice seeing you guys today :) I'm sure our lengthy lists of allocations will be on sometime tonight courtesy of Cainebj....Pics on our Flickr's later too :)
 

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A pleasure to see said members. Allocations were rather ordinary, with the exception of 22816 as has been noted.


Bring on May 28th!
 

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Following appeared on 2/2A:
17022, 17023, 10338, 19325, 18327, 18330, 18361, 18363, 18365, 18380, 21003 (was on other services earlier in the day), 22804, 22826, 22827.

Following appeared on 3/4:
22721, 22804, 22807, 22809, 22814, 22815, 22817, 22821, 22822, 22823, 22824, 22825.

22818 out on 6/6A with the 3 Versa's.
20544 on 7's with 47021 and 47728. 47249 was on there later on.
All 4 B10B's out and about.
22816 on 40, with 18326 and Scania's.
16664 on 42 with another Oly this afternoon. 16664 was parked up at bus station this morning.
A Scania flying around Not in Service this afternoon, along with a Trident. Can't remember which they were, but I'm pretty sure I got pictures of them.

Will link my set of pictures to here when they're all uploaded.


17017 on 300 this morning. All 4 Scania's on tonight when I got back from Lancaster.
34616, 35248 (i think) and another 56 reg Dart on 30/31.
47617 on Maryport Town.
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Here is an article that appears on pages 13, 14, 15 & 16 of this weeks Bus & Coach Buyer entitled City Hopping with Reays.

View attachment 3659

Reays aren't as good as the article tries to make out.
75 branded Primo on 64 today, while a 709D went on low floor advertised 75. (They have a spare Primo, KX57 FKV, so that was 2 missing from service).
They can't have picked the Primo's cos they're "eyecatching". If they wanted to do "eyecatching", they'd have got the E200 Demo that they had, same spec and everything. It'd have been much much better to ride on than them bloody awful Primo's. Surely it is common knowledge that the Primo costs £83,000, whereas the mini E200 costs £100,000, and a Solo M880 costing £103,500. I'd like to know where they got the info from that a Solo wouldn't fit around parts of the route. They only had a demo Solo for approx 2 weeks, and it lived on the 75 the whole time they had it. They didn't take another one while planning 63 and 64. Large sections of Reays routes are covered by Stagecoach's 38 seat ADL Dart's.
Saw 3 totally empty Primo's in a row as well, whilst the Stagecoach Darts were running with quite a few passengers on.
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forgot to mention that 86/89 were 33172 and an 84 branded Versa. Can't remember number off top of my head. PX08 FNG i think it was.
 
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Following appeared on 2/2A:
17022, 17023, 10338, 19325, 18327, 18330, 18361, 18363, 18365, 18380, 21003 (was on other services earlier in the day), 22804, 22826, 22827.

10338 ?, and when was 19325 transferred from Exeter ?:lol:

Also 16877 was on 2A's late afternoon.
 

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10338 ?, and when was 19325 transferred from Exeter ?:lol:

Also 16877 was on 2A's late afternoon.

Should take more notice when I'm typing after a long day out! :lol:

10338 shouldn't be there, and 19325 should read 18325!


Just noticed in the article about Reays. It says the 75 operates every 30 minutes. It is an hourly service...
"Chris decided to introduce a fixed interval service so that people knew there would be a bus every half hour at a specific time past every hour for most of the day. For example buses leave Dalston every half hour at 02 and 32 minutes past and similarly buses leave Cotehill every half hour at 03 and 33. Services are run from approximately 07.30 to 18.30"
Timetable from Reays website
 
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