Stagecoach North West Discussion

[Cumberland Lad]

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[Gez.SCNW]

I have these two as allocated to Chesterfield, not aware of any for Inverness in the near future either, althoug there are five unallocated 15716-15720, but like any time they can be swapped around

 

[Dallamlad]

I have these two as allocated to Chesterfield, not aware of any for Inverness in the near future either, althoug there are five unallocated 15716-15720, but like any time they can be swapped around

Mmmmmm interesting. LL should have a spare LF decker I think but ME obviously doesn't need one.

 

[cainebj]

would make a lot of sense for LL to get a spare LF for 300 like. it'd be the only low floor service between Carlisle and Maryport, plus with the hourly frequency, its a bit sh*t to have to tell a wheelchair passenger to wait an hour for the next one!
routes 38, 554 and 600 cover the Carlisle - Wigton part of 300, but they're step entrance routes as well! 38 does sometimes get Darts if they're available, but B10Ms and Oly's (or even coaches) are on quite a bit!

 

[jonesy3001]

So it would seem. However these two extra Scanias could be spares one for ME (they don't really need a spare) and the other for LL. Or they could be for another route entirely or a depot that isn't ME or LL.

They might be for morecambe as they have got the preston college contracts from preston bus.

 

[cainebj]

a Marshall (must have been 33169, but never know with Lillyhall these days!) and 42565 went up towards the bus station a few mins ago. 1 is Moorclose Circular 50 and 1 is Seaton 47. not sure which is which! but both of these are advertised low floor routes, and said Vario is listed on the official fleet list as disposals! or is 42565 going to be one of the Vario's coming back to service?
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20903 and 20777 on annexe.
16714 on 30 and 31.
a K reg B10M on full length 300!
47006 and 33169 on Moorclose Circulars.
42565 on Seaton.
an M-TBV on SL Ltd

 

[mbonwick]

Morecambe have got the Preston College contract(s) from Preston Bus? What's that all about?

 

[richw]

would make a lot of sense for LL to get a spare LF for 300 like. it'd be the only low floor service between Carlisle and Maryport, plus with the hourly frequency, its a bit sh*t to have to tell a wheelchair passenger to wait an hour for the next one!
routes 38, 554 and 600 cover the Carlisle - Wigton part of 300, but they're step entrance routes as well! 38 does sometimes get Darts if they're available, but B10Ms and Oly's (or even coaches) are on quite a bit!

under disability laws all buses with more than 22 seats used on public charging services must be wheelchair accesible though! hence why First Devon and Cornwall have replace there ancient fleet with some rather nice new buses!

 

[Mattdw92]

i've been following this forum as a guest for a while now and i never realised that people keep track of the areas fleet movements (Y)

a Marshall (must have been 33169, but never know with Lillyhall these days!) and 42565 went up towards the bus station a few mins ago. 1 is Moorclose Circular 50 and 1 is Seaton 47. not sure which is which! but both of these are advertised low floor routes, and said Vario is listed on the official fleet list as disposals! or is 42565 going to be one of the Vario's coming back to service?
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20903 and 20777 on annexe.

47006 and 33169 on Moorclose Circulars.
42565 on Seaton.

apparently this morning which ever solo was working 51 service died at workington bus station, there was no 51 service for an hour and 20777 was on 50 at this time, so no lf buses :roll: this afternoon 47005 moved onto 51 and 47059 onto 50 while 47006 went onto harrington and 33169 onto seaton - with 42565 knocking about still!

- my little contribution

 

[rosswatson]

i've been following this forum as a guest for a while now and i never realised that people keep track of the areas fleet movements (Y)



apparently this morning which ever solo was working 51 service died at workington bus station, there was no 51 service for an hour and 20777 was on 50 at this time, so no lf buses :roll: this afternoon 47005 moved onto 51 and 47059 onto 50 while 47006 went onto harrington and 33169 onto seaton - with 42565 knocking about still!

- my little contribution

A warm welcome Matt
52628 on X4 today.... :roll:
20901 on short 300.

 

[Mattdw92]

A warm welcome Matt
52628 on X4 today.... :roll:
20901 on short 300.

thanks ross always cropping up the old' Jonckheere's, they wont go without a fight are the remaining ones still in the transcumbria livery?

 

[rosswatson]

thanks ross always croping up the old' Jonckheere's, they wont go without a fight are the remaining ones still in the transcumbria livery?

52626 and 52627 are now will Carlisle and are in 685 livery. They have been retrimmed inside and look quite tidy!
52628 is now in plain corporate livery and sees use on the X4/5 and other routes.
52629 is now at Preston Frenchwood and awaiting use on the X61... it is still in TransCumbria livery!

 

[Dallamlad]

They might be for morecambe as they have got the preston college contracts from preston bus.

I'm confused...

Not much to report today. 20451 on X1 been a while since I've seen it!

Also welcome to Matt and richw

 

[Mattdw92]

52626 and 52627 are now will Carlisle and are in 685 livery. They have been retrimmed inside and look quite tidy!
52628 is now in plain corporate livery and sees use on the X4/5 and other routes.
52629 is now at Preston Frenchwood and awaiting use on the X61... it is still in TransCumbria livery!

yeah they do look good up at Carlisle, still life in them yet then!

Thanks Dallamlad

 

[Gez.SCNW]

under disability laws all buses with more than 22 seats used on public charging services must be wheelchair accesible though! hence why First Devon and Cornwall have replace there ancient fleet with some rather nice new buses!

Not for a few more years yet they don't

 

[rosswatson]

yeah they do look good up at Carlisle, still life in them yet then!

Thanks Dallamlad

Unfortunately, they still have the "Jonck smell" on the inside!

 

[mbonwick]

2017 for Single decks to be accessable, 2019 (I think) for Double decks and 2022 (again, I think) for coaches.

Absolutenly nothing special today; my brother saw both 14245 and 16664 and commented on how nice the Leyland sounded. FWIW, he's the most anti-bus person ever

 

[Chris26584]

P reg coaches DallamLad.
16352 is probably still hanging around as 18153 is now in reserve.....

Unless it has a twin, 18153 isnt in reserve as I took it out to Blackpool this morning, saying that was probably still half asleep!!!
52529 is still, as stated by Ross, in Trans Cumbria livery parked in exactly the same spot as it has been for the last 2 weeks, just behind it the first glimpse of 16328. Looks to have been newly repainted and adorned with Stagecoach in Cumbria fleetnames. Whether this has a tacho could determine its use at Frenchwood. Seem to remember last year our 2 Joncks went on holiday over the summer to Chorley, allowing some of their school deckers to come to Preston for our 68 and our tacho deckers to be used on the X61. Consider this year the 'winter' timetable is still in place and the situation maybe different, but I'd expect extra capacity will be needed on the through runnings to Blackpool when the school summer hols kick in. It may even seen 16352 stay until after the summer peak, replacing single deckers on the 61 on busy days. With 16 less vehicles at Frenchwood than this time 12 months ago, the coaches should at least stay as spares there for the summer.
Interesting that Morecambe have won Preston College contracts from Preston Bus, would think that Morecambe would want the ones around the northern quarter of the region, which are run by other operators rather than PB. Lots of dead millage as they couldn't even be diagramed in with other school contracts.

 

[mbonwick]

I was skeptical of those few movements on the fleetcard as well Chris. I think Preston's 'internal' movements and the region movements got mixed up.

(I'm talking about 18146, 18152 Res -> PR, 18153 PR -> Res)

 

[jonesy3001]

Unless it has a twin, 18153 isnt in reserve as I took it out to Blackpool this morning, saying that was probably still half asleep!!!
52529 is still, as stated by Ross, in Trans Cumbria livery parked in exactly the same spot as it has been for the last 2 weeks, just behind it the first glimpse of 16328. Looks to have been newly repainted and adorned with Stagecoach in Cumbria fleetnames. Whether this has a tacho could determine its use at Frenchwood. Seem to remember last year our 2 Joncks went on holiday over the summer to Chorley, allowing some of their school deckers to come to Preston for our 68 and our tacho deckers to be used on the X61. Consider this year the 'winter' timetable is still in place and the situation maybe different, but I'd expect extra capacity will be needed on the through runnings to Blackpool when the school summer hols kick in. It may even seen 16352 stay until after the summer peak, replacing single deckers on the 61 on busy days. With 16 less vehicles at Frenchwood than this time 12 months ago, the coaches should at least stay as spares there for the summer.
Interesting that Morecambe have won Preston College contracts from Preston Bus, would think that Morecambe would want the ones around the northern quarter of the region, which are run by other operators rather than PB. Lots of dead millage as they couldn't even be diagramed in with other school contracts.

They are changing the 40/41 timetable in august, they might extend a couple of journeys to the college or run them dead to/from garstang garage.

 

[Dallamlad]

They are changing the 40/41 timetable in august, they might extend a couple of journeys to the college or run them dead to/from garstang garage.

Ohhhhhh I see! Sorry I thought you meant like private buses not service routes!

 

[Chris26584]

They are changing the 40/41 timetable in august, they might extend a couple of journeys to the college or run them dead to/from garstang garage.

Seems a pretty good idea, saves that long walk up St Vincents road which I remember when I went there!

 

[Gez.SCNW]

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Absolutenly nothing special today; my brother saw both 14245 and 16664 and commented on how nice the Leyland sounded. FWIW, he's the most anti-bus person ever [/QUOTE]

should have made it out earlier
1320 555 16184
1420 555 **22813**

 

[mbonwick]

What failed on the 1420 then Gez? I can't imagine 16184 was populat, that one at 1320 is always full of OAPs!

 

[Dallamlad]

[
Absolutenly nothing special today; my brother saw both 14245 and 16664 and commented on how nice the Leyland sounded. FWIW, he's the most anti-bus person ever

should have made it out earlier
1320 555 16184
1420 555 **22813**[/QUOTE]

Bet the KL driver didn't mind driving something different!

 

[cainebj]

20921 on 30 and 31! hasn't been retrimmed.
16734 on 300.
a K reg B10M on 30, 31 or 300, or possibly even 48 actually.
20952 on 48 this afternoon.
47060 on 51.
47061 on Harrington.
47062 on Seaton.
20195, 20994, 20763 and 20473 all been on the annexe at various points this afternoon.

 

[Mattdw92]

some poor people have lost their house to a fire this afternoon at moorclose, builders fitting felts to the loft using a blow torch on roof :/ no injuries thankfully - road been closed so diversion for 50 (47006) & 51 via the narrow Needham Drive, don't know where 31 has been diverted, hasn't been seen coming to follow this diversion or whether road has been reopened

 

[rosswatson]

some poor people have lost their house to a fire this afternoon at moorclose, builders fitting felts to the loft using a blow torch on roof :/ no injuries thankfully - road been closed so diversion for 50 (47006) & 51 via the narrow Needham Drive, don't know where 31 has been diverted, hasn't been seen coming to follow this diversion or whether road has been reopened

It would be nice if 47006 got torched
I haven't seen anything today, I'm stuck in the house revising for my History exam! :-x

In other news, there are roadworks on Station Road!

 

[Mattdw92]

It would be nice if 47006 got torched
I haven't seen anything today, I'm stuck in the house revising for my History exam! :-x

In other news, there are roadworks on Station Road!

ohh yes i'd agree although then lillyhall would have even less lf's
...and as if the moorclose circular didn't get behind schedule enough :roll: good luck with your exam though

 

[cainebj]

peak time Moorclose Circular 50's are missing out Derwent Howe Industrial Estate (for Morrisons) & Workington Train Station due to heavy traffic. from Honister Drive, they are turning onto Harrington Road, then up Vulcans Lane direct to the bus station. Moorclose Circular 51 is still serving both the train station and Derwent Howe Industrial Estate. the train station is also served by 30, 31 and 300 as usual for railway passengers heading into town centre.