Staff Passes for 'Housekeepers'

[cakefiend]

From my distant memory, staff travel passes for those in the ATOC scheme were for people married, civil partnershiped, or had been ‘together’ for 2 years or more. How you prove the last one was I guess a little interesting. Certainly I made a big show of presenting Mrs BR with her first class pass on her our wedding day.

The evidence for being in a relationship without a marriage or civil partnership certificate is currently a form signed by a notary public, following production of three proofs of address with both parties names on. Only certain documents are counted, things like mobile phone and broadband bills apparently aren't sufficient for some reason or other.

 

[Haywain]

staff travel passes for those in the ATOC scheme were for people married, civil partnershiped, or had been ‘together’ for 2 years or more.

As I recall, that was not just together but living together (cohabiting) - I never had to deal with the paperwork as we got married before the two years was completed.

 

[infobleep]

The evidence for being in a relationship without a marriage or civil partnership certificate is currently a form signed by a notary public, following production of three proofs of address with both parties names on. Only certain documents are counted, things like mobile phone and broadband bills apparently aren't sufficient for some reason or other.

Is that simply because they haven't updated the list of permitted documents or is it more legal than that?

 

[cakefiend]

Is that simply because they haven't updated the list of permitted documents or is it more legal than that?

No, it states specifically that they're not acceptable. Guessing it's something to do with how easy they are to obtain and change.

 

[DarloRich]

That still applies now!

Sorry for the long quote, direct from the RSTL travel website:

Section 7: HOUSEKEEPERS​

1. A Housekeeper will not be eligible for rail staff travel facilities if the Employee is married or in a Civil Partnership or a similar relationship irrespective of whether the Spouse, Civil Partner or Partner is receiving rail staff travel facilities, unless the Employee's Spouse, Civil Partner is permanently incapacitated and unable to travel.
2. A Housekeeper of an Employee may be eligible for rail staff travel facilities if they:
   1. are permanently resident with the Employee in the Employee's own property, and
   2. act as a bona-fide permanent resident housekeeper to the Employee, and
   3. do not act as a housekeeper for any other person, and
   4. are entirely dependent upon the Employee, provided that their gross unearned income does not exceed the current Housekeeper's income limit and they have no earned income, and
   5. are a close personal relative of the Employee, i.e. mother, father, sister, brother, son or daughter, and
   6. are not married or in a Civil Partnership or similar relationship, and
   7. do not own, part-own, rent (or jointly rent), lease (or jointly lease), or have any financial interest in the Employee's residence.
3. The eligibility of rail staff travel facilities for a Housekeeper is entirely at the discretion of RST
4. Rail staff travel facilities will only be issued to an eligible Housekeeper upon completion by the Employee of a Housekeeper Application Form, and by RST accepting, the Housekeeper Application Form, that is completed in accordance with the instructions issued by RST, and all evidentiary documentation supplied in support of the application.
5. If any evidence supplied in support of the Housekeeper Application Form is not completed in English, then the Employee must supply an official or certified translation of the evidence at their own expense.
6. The eligibility for rail staff travel facilities for a Housekeeper ceases when the Housekeeper:
   1. is no longer permanently resident with the Employee, or
   2. is no longer entirely dependent upon the Employee, or
   3. has a gross unearned income that exceeds the current Housekeeper's income limit, or
   4. has any earned income, or
   5. owns, part-owns, rents (or jointly rents), leases (or jointly leases), or has any financial interest in the Employee's residence.
7. The eligibility for rail staff travel facilities for a Housekeeper ceases when the Employee:
   1. is married, or
   2. is in a Civil Partnership.
8. If the Employee is deceased, then the Housekeeper may only continue to be eligible to receive rail staff travel facilities if they:
   1. do not act as a housekeeper for any other person, and
   2. have a gross unearned income does not exceed the current Housekeeper's income limit and they have no earned income, and
   3. do not own, part-own, rent (or jointly rent), lease (or jointly lease), or have any financial interest in the Employee's residence, and
   4. remain unmarried and not in a Civil Partnership or other similar relationship, and
   5. have been receiving rail staff travel facilities as a Housekeeper through the Employee's record, and
   6. are at least 50 years of age at the time of the Employee's death.

That wording has to have been created to provide a "confirmed bachelor" ( no doubt in a senior position) with the opportunity to ensure his aged mother or man servant benefited from the free pass.

is that STILL in the rule book? Fantastic!