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Splitting for Improvements?

Should services be split to accommodate improvements?

  • Never

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes, if connections between the portions work

    Votes: 8 66.7%
  • Yes, we need to progress

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes, but clear dates for reunion must be defined

    Votes: 4 33.3%
  • Other, please add to the thread

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    12
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Is it ever ok to split existing through trains to facilitate improvements in one, or both, halves?

The introduction in 175s on GWR will see Cardiff to Penzance split temporarily at Exeter. The benefits are clear as the IETs freed from the Exeter to Penzance part can go back to operating IET routes (such as South Wales to London) that have been consistently short-formed of late. We do not yet know if the connections will work, but presumably platform 6 at St Davids can assist with the connections. In the case of the Exeter split an end date is in sight because the goal is to get 175s on the full route when training is complete.

South Wales to Manchester has seen a split to accommodate Mk4 between Cardiff and Manchester. The December timetable helps, but for the first year and a half the split has meant no connections between the two halves. The extra terminators in Cardiff do not help with Cardiff either because of the challenges of terminating there.

Should Cardiff to Swansea be electrified then to gain any benefit from the wires some trains would need to split at Swansea. That may last indefinitely since wires would be less likely to continue west.

There are no doubt many more examples people can find.
 
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My view is that its better to maintain through services as far as possible, as there are passengers who find changing trains inconvenient or difficult. The split of previously through trains at Cardiff on the Marches line has not been great, and I've missed connections several times. Often the trains are not even in adjacent platforms.

There are also issues caused by having more terminating trains blocking through platforms for longer, a real problem at Cardiff.
 
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