Speeding Lorry demolishes Hartlebury level crossing

[AndrewE]

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I keep getting shouted at for using “amber”. “ITS YELLOW!!!”

(I know you were on about road signals)

On the roads it is amber (remember learning amber - red - red-and-amber - green?) On the railway, however, signals are definitely yellow.

 

[nat67]

Well, yes - obviously the flashing lights would start prior to the barriers descending.

Maybe rock-solid bollards ten feet tall should rise up out of the road in front of the barriers...*


*Not to be taken too seriously, but I do agree that something needs to be done. There is far too much abuse of crossings these days.

Maybe not bolllards but those metal spike things that are used to prevent people coming out of car parks the wrong way.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

There should be no such thing as an "ambler gambler", speed limits on the approach to crossings or even road junctions are worked that you must be able to stop your vehicle in the distance that you see to be clear.

I'll ask a question- what does a red light mean and what does an amber light mean..... Ask around you and I'd reckon you'll get 60% failure rate

On the road: red means STOP! Amber means stop unless pulling up (suddenly) causes an accident - i.e. rear-end collision

 

[Pakenhamtrain]

Good lord is there anything that can be done to protect innocent rail passengers from idiot road users?

You could do what we are doing. Spend a bucket load of money to get rid of them.
My line got some fancy viaducts and stations out of getting rid of the crossings:
https://railgallery.wongm.com/caulfield-dandenong-level-crossing-removal/F127_9811.jpg.html
https://levelcrossings.vic.gov.au/_...334483/39.-Murumbeena-Station-6-June-2018.jpg
At the same time they re did the track, signalling and overhead to get the line ready for the HCMT.

We also chuck track and roads into trenches:
https://levelcrossings.vic.gov.au/_...rdaleStation-AFTER-7092.20180516043236315.jpg

 

[AndrewE]

It isn't a caveat, it is part of the Legislation.

of course it's a caveat:
"You MUST NOT enter the box until your exit road or lane is clear. Unless..." Isn't that the definition of a caveat?
The first entry for "Caveat" on Google says "a warning or proviso of specific stipulations, conditions, or limitations." Maybe you and I use or understand English differently...

Thanks, but I liked keeping a good relationship with the Police where my Box was, and that is certainly not the way to do it.

I would have thought that warning them about behaviour likely to cause a train derailment or road-user fatality would be seen as a useful contribution to accident prevention.
On top of that, if as a signaller you had sat by and never flagged up people putting themselves at risk jumping warning lights then I wouldn't be surprised if a Coroner was to direct some harsh words at you at an inquest.
On second thoughts, maybe you should have talked to the local Fire Brigade (now Fire and Rescue?) Ours seem to be quite heavily into accident prevention now.

 

[Llanigraham]

of course it's a caveat:
I would have thought that warning them about behaviour likely to cause a train derailment or road-user fatality would be seen as a useful contribution to accident prevention.
On top of that, if as a signaller you had sat by and never flagged up people putting themselves at risk jumping warning lights then I wouldn't be surprised if a Coroner was to direct some harsh words at you at an inquest.
On second thoughts, maybe you should have talked to the local Fire Brigade (now Fire and Rescue?) Ours seem to be quite heavily into accident prevention now.

Who says I didn't mention it when they dropped in at 2 in the morning for a cuppa and a chat?
And I and my colleagues have certainly reported plenty of people who ignored the lights, but getting their reg number isn't and cannot be the first priority. That is to get the barriers down, the signals cleared and not delaying the train.

And I suspect you are aren't a signalman.

 

[headshot119]

Who says I didn't mention it when they dropped in at 2 in the morning for a cuppa and a chat?
And I and my colleagues have certainly reported plenty of people who ignored the lights, but getting their reg number isn't and cannot be the first priority. That is to get the barriers down, the signals cleared and not delaying the train.

And I suspect you are aren't a signalman.

With the greatest respect to the right honorable member for the Marches, neither are you.

 

[LAX54]

Emergency Vehicles can go through standard traffic lights, which is why we have wigswags as nothing can go past flashing wigwags.

There are crossings in the UK which have cameras linked to the red wigwags

Indeed, Flashing Reds, MANDATORY STOP for ALL vehicles, including the Emergency Services.

 

[Llanigraham]

With the greatest respect to the right honorable member for the Marches, neither are you.

Not now, but until recently I was for 10 years and controlled the level crossing at Bromfield.

 

[jon0844]

On the road: red means STOP! Amber means stop unless pulling up (suddenly) causes an accident - i.e. rear-end collision

Over time, most people would almost certainly say they didn't have time to stop when they saw amber (but DID have time to floor it!) and I've had many a cars rush through a pedestrian crossings with absolutely nobody behind them.