Rich McLean
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Ok, so I was a bit bored and I can imagine this would gain interest.
Nobody knows quite what the GWML will look like post IEP introduction. What we do know is Crossrail will have all the paths on the RL apart from the 2 Oxford Stoppers as far as Maidenhead. The HeX express paths cannot be altered. I think we could end up with something looking like the below on the Mains. Also we now know that all 80x will be Bi-mode. I was interested in what the final product would would like
xx00 - Weston S M (RA BPW) (125mph)
xx03 - Bristol TM via Bath (125mph)
xx06 - Plymouth/Penzance via Desert (125mph)
xx10 - Hex (100mph)
xx15 - Cardiff (Carmarthen in peaks) (125mph)
xx18 - Newbury (110mph)
xx22 - Oxford (125mph) - Stops at Slough
xx25 - HeX (100mph)
xx30 - Bristol TM (RA BPW) (125mph)
xx33 - Bristol TM via Bath (125mph)
xx36 - Wesbury/Exeter/Paignton (125mph)
xx40 - HeX (100mph)
xx45 - Swansea (125mph)
xx48 - Cheltenham (125mph)
xx52 - Worcester/Gt Malvern/Hereford (125mph - Stops at Slough)
xx55 - Hex
With Peak extra Queue buster paths
xx12 - Oxford (first stop Twyford) - 110mph
xx27 - Reading/Didcot (first stop Maidenhead) - 110mph
xx42 - Swindon (first stop Twyford) - 110mph
xx57 - Reading/Didcot (first stop Maidenhead) - 110mph
Those extras can be switched to the RL at Maidenhead East. This is where the xx00, xx15, xx30 and xx45 will overtake (and no doubt be checked down on approach). No other way of fitting them all in, but the capacity is needed. Most of these could be 12 cars to try and entice Reading commuters off the longer distance services.
Peak Variations
xx00 - 5 off peak, 10 car peak
xx30 to be 2x5 car in the peak, and split at BPW, with one portion off to Cardiff. Also these will run fast to Bristol Parkway non-stop
Plymouth/Penzance - Mostly 10 cars, with 5 cars between Plymouth and Cornwall off peak, 9 or 10 car through services in the peaks.
The idea of running the two Bristols one in front of the other is to manage loadings better, so all passengers going to Bristol and beyond directed to the Fast via PW service, and those for stations in between put onto the service 3 minutes later, which stops at all the usual places. Additionally, those services via Bath could be advertised as "Bath Spa" at Paddington to deter Bristol punters away. Gives passengers at stations in between more chance of a seat. Run them 15 mins apart, and one train will be overcrowded, while the flyers lightly loaded.
One thing I do know is that NR will want to avoid a major change the current pattern, to avoid a near nationwide timetable re-write (if you change the WoE pattern, you mess up XC, change the SW diagrams, you mess up ATW. Rewrite XC and AW, and that could mean re-writes further north).
Can anyone to better than that or have any other wacky idea's
Legend:
BPW = Bristol Parkway
Hex = Heathrow Exrpess
TM = Temple Meads
Desert = Berks & Hants line between Reading and Taunton avoiding Bristol.
Disclaimer: This is a Trivia thread, so nothing set in stone, none of the above has a bearing on what will actually happen in reality.
Nobody knows quite what the GWML will look like post IEP introduction. What we do know is Crossrail will have all the paths on the RL apart from the 2 Oxford Stoppers as far as Maidenhead. The HeX express paths cannot be altered. I think we could end up with something looking like the below on the Mains. Also we now know that all 80x will be Bi-mode. I was interested in what the final product would would like
xx00 - Weston S M (RA BPW) (125mph)
xx03 - Bristol TM via Bath (125mph)
xx06 - Plymouth/Penzance via Desert (125mph)
xx10 - Hex (100mph)
xx15 - Cardiff (Carmarthen in peaks) (125mph)
xx18 - Newbury (110mph)
xx22 - Oxford (125mph) - Stops at Slough
xx25 - HeX (100mph)
xx30 - Bristol TM (RA BPW) (125mph)
xx33 - Bristol TM via Bath (125mph)
xx36 - Wesbury/Exeter/Paignton (125mph)
xx40 - HeX (100mph)
xx45 - Swansea (125mph)
xx48 - Cheltenham (125mph)
xx52 - Worcester/Gt Malvern/Hereford (125mph - Stops at Slough)
xx55 - Hex
With Peak extra Queue buster paths
xx12 - Oxford (first stop Twyford) - 110mph
xx27 - Reading/Didcot (first stop Maidenhead) - 110mph
xx42 - Swindon (first stop Twyford) - 110mph
xx57 - Reading/Didcot (first stop Maidenhead) - 110mph
Those extras can be switched to the RL at Maidenhead East. This is where the xx00, xx15, xx30 and xx45 will overtake (and no doubt be checked down on approach). No other way of fitting them all in, but the capacity is needed. Most of these could be 12 cars to try and entice Reading commuters off the longer distance services.
Peak Variations
xx00 - 5 off peak, 10 car peak
xx30 to be 2x5 car in the peak, and split at BPW, with one portion off to Cardiff. Also these will run fast to Bristol Parkway non-stop
Plymouth/Penzance - Mostly 10 cars, with 5 cars between Plymouth and Cornwall off peak, 9 or 10 car through services in the peaks.
The idea of running the two Bristols one in front of the other is to manage loadings better, so all passengers going to Bristol and beyond directed to the Fast via PW service, and those for stations in between put onto the service 3 minutes later, which stops at all the usual places. Additionally, those services via Bath could be advertised as "Bath Spa" at Paddington to deter Bristol punters away. Gives passengers at stations in between more chance of a seat. Run them 15 mins apart, and one train will be overcrowded, while the flyers lightly loaded.
One thing I do know is that NR will want to avoid a major change the current pattern, to avoid a near nationwide timetable re-write (if you change the WoE pattern, you mess up XC, change the SW diagrams, you mess up ATW. Rewrite XC and AW, and that could mean re-writes further north).
Can anyone to better than that or have any other wacky idea's
Legend:
BPW = Bristol Parkway
Hex = Heathrow Exrpess
TM = Temple Meads
Desert = Berks & Hants line between Reading and Taunton avoiding Bristol.
Disclaimer: This is a Trivia thread, so nothing set in stone, none of the above has a bearing on what will actually happen in reality.
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