Southern Terrier No.12

[carlwebus]

Hi All

This is about another intriguing image from the job lot I bought at the local auction house.

It is obviously an A1/ A1X Terrier.

Obvioulsy in Southern Railway days.

But: the number 12?

Is this one of the LBSCR locos that was sold off to the Isle of Wight Railways and then subsumed back into Southern Railway stock at the Grouping?

If so: why is it 12 and not W12 and why no visible name plate (Ventnor)?

SO: can someone fill me in on the loco, its history and hopefully the location of the image?

 

[D6130]

Hi All

This is about another intriguing image from the job lot I bought at the local auction house.

It is obviously an A1/ A1X Terrier.

Obvioulsy in Southern Railway days.

But: the number 12?

Is this one of the LBSCR locos that was sold off to the Isle of Wight Railways and then subsumed back into Southern Railway stock at the Grouping?

If so: why is it 12 and not W12 and why no visible name plate (Ventnor)?

SO: can someone fill me in on the loco, its history and hopefully the location of the image?View attachment 198267

Given the amount of track and signalling visible, I would think it could be Newport (IOW), with the Freshwater line trailing in from the left and the locomotive depot to the right. Noteworthy is the large amount of lightweight flat bottom rail still in use as a throwback to the Freshwater, Yarmouth & Newport and Isle of Wight Central Railways. If my hunch is correct, the photographer is looking North towards Cowes.

 

[Tony2]

I think the text accompanying this photo answers the loco query part of your question?

Southern Railway – ‘A1X Class’ 0-6-0T No. W12 ‘Ventnor’ (84 ‘Crowborough’, IWCR No.12 & W12) Terrier’s on shed at Newport, IOW c1935.

The London, Brighton and South Coast Railway (LB&SCR) A1 Class is an English class of 0-6-0T steam locomotive. Designed by William Stroudley, 50 members of the class were built in 1872 and between 1874 and 1880, all at Brighton Works. The class has received several nicknames, initially being...

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[norbitonflyer]

If carried at all, the "W" was often much smaller than the number itself (given it was on the island it was, after all, unlikely to be confused with the other No 12 (an ex LSWR Adams Class F6 0-4-4T) which lived on the mainland. What might be a small "W" can be seen above the number

 

[Gloster]

It is Newport with Newport North Signal Box in the distance. The locos didn’t generally carry the W or it was only small as, with no connection to the rest of the network, there was no need to differentiate them from other locos with the same number.

Names were only fitted by the SR from October 1928, although some pre-grouping lines had used them, and Ventnor got hers in May 1929.

Source: A Locomotive History of Railways on the Isle of Wight, Bradley, RCTS, 1982.