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winks

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Obviously RMT members within southern or GTR voted for action short of a strike with regards the up and coming industrial action on 21st June. Does this mean that GTR will be operating services over this period and why did staff not follow the other TOCs ? I’m assuming they have just come out of a 3 year deal which was worth 7% . Am I right ?
 
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Obviously RMT members within southern or GTR voted for action short of a strike with regards the up and coming industrial action on 21st June. Does this mean that GTR will be operating services over this period and why did staff not follow the other TOCs ? I’m assuming they have just come out of a 3 year deal which was worth 7% . Am I right ?
No, they will be running 20% of service like most of the other TOC's as because Network Rail are on strike it doesn't make any difference if GTR voted for strike action or not.
 

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GTR guards had the right idea. Most of them will be sat in Depot all day being paid to not run a service.

Station staff however will likely be wishing they were on strike.
 

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Ah ok forgot about the 20pc. Perhaps I can get to Brighton or Portsmouth after all if needs be ! You never know.
 

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It's not the case that RMT members at GTR didn't vote for strike action, it's that there appears to have been a mass outbreak of apathy, so the thresholds weren't met.

Ballot Result said:
Number of individuals entitled to vote in the ballot: 2327
Number of votes cast: 1198 (51.5%)
Number of individuals answering "Yes": 926 (39.8% of those eligible to vote)
Number of individuals answering "No": 267 (11.5% of those eligible to vote)
Number of spoiled or otherwise invalid voting papers returned: 5 (0.2% of those eligible to vote)

For a ballot to succeed, there MUST be a turnout of at least 50% AND at least 40% of those eligible to vote have to vote Yes.

To put it another way, if those 5 "spoiled" ballots had been unequivocal "Yes" votes, it would have succeeded.
 

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It's not the case that RMT members at GTR didn't vote for strike action, it's that there appears to have been a mass outbreak of apathy, so the thresholds weren't met.



For a ballot to succeed, there MUST be a turnout of at least 50% AND at least 40% of those eligible to vote have to vote Yes.

To put it another way, if those 5 "spoiled" ballots had been unequivocal "Yes" votes, it would have succeeded.

Are they still going to do 'action short of strike' ?

I'm sure that's quite a big spanner in GTR's resilience planning anyway.
 

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basingstoke !
Hmm, I'll have to check tommorow if you can get to Brighton or Portsmouth from Basingstoke. I reckon the SWML will be open to Waterloo, and then you'll defintley be able to go to London Bridge to get a train to Brighton. As long as your are travelling between 7am and 7pm on strike days, and the first and last trains will be later/earlier than those times.
 

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Yea it could be do-able. So GTR are just out of a pay deal hence the lack of vote for strike action ?
 

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No, they will be running 20% of service like most of the other TOC's as because Network Rail are on strike it doesn't make any difference if GTR voted for strike action or not.
No operator has yet published a timetable according to National Rail industrial action page

https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service_disruptions/industrialaction.aspx

I would imagine NR will be able to staff Bridges ASC & Bridges ROC with a Thameslink London Bridge to Brighton service every half hour 0700 to 1900 but will have to leave most of the junctions / complex stations in auto mode so nothing on the branches. If they can run through the core would have thought the likes of St Pancras and Thameslink would have to be closed as underground stations need min staffing but doubt they will best to keep services self contained to each side of the river.
 

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As part of a general forum tidy up we now have a dedicated thread for the discussion of industrial action.
The thread is here:


Thanks everyone.
 
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