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gtis

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is the south yorkshire day tripper
valid up to denby dale if so
can i use it in conjuntion with a
west yorkshire rover and travel
to huddersfield leeds and doncaster
or will i have to buy a ticket somewere
between leeds and doncaster
neil
 
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glynn80

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hi all
is the south yorkshire day tripper
valid up to denby dale if so
can i use it in conjuntion with a
west yorkshire rover and travel
to huddersfield leeds and doncaster
or will i have to buy a ticket somewere
between leeds and doncaster
neil

The South Yorkshire Day Tripper (http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/promotions/pr4e4c5bd978468b9fde0d455c9b61a8/details.html) is only valid for travel up until Penistone. You will therefore have to purchase a ticket between Penistone and Denby Dale if you wish to travel on the Sheffield to Huddersfield line using both the West Yorkshire Day Rover and the South Yorkshire Day Tripper in conjunction with each other.

If you wished to travel into the West Yorkshire Day Rover validity area using a South Yorkshire Day Tripper, they do overlap at Darton station but bear in mind if you did use these tickets in conjunction with each other like this, the train you are on must call at Darton (only one per hour in each direction does).
 
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theblackwatch

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hi all
is the south yorkshire day tripper
valid up to denby dale if so
can i use it in conjuntion with a
west yorkshire rover and travel
to huddersfield leeds and doncaster
or will i have to buy a ticket somewere
between leeds and doncaster
neil

As far as I know, you will need a ticket between the two boundary stations.

 

Skarpur

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The West Yorkshire ticket should be good to South Elmsall from where the South Yorkshire ticket will take over. It's also vaild for change overs at Darton and Moorthorpe, but I believe that the train has to stop at these stations to make the tickets vaild.

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As far as I know, you will need a ticket between the two boundary stations.


Denby Dale/Darton/Moorthorpe/South Elmsall count as both SY and WY boundaries, they're basically stations within both areas.

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http://www.travelsouthyorkshire.com...3-206F5020BF09/0/2237_rail_network_map_01.pdf
Shows SY tickets as being vaild to them and http://www.wymetro.com/NR/rdonlyres...7-9864DAB24758/0/CrossBoundaryinfoleaflet.pdf shows the WY stations which include the boundary stations from South Yorkshire.
 
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glynn80

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Skarpur said:
The West Yorkshire ticket should be good to South Elmsall from where the South Yorkshire ticket will take over. It's also vaild for change overs at Darton and Moorthorpe, but I believe that the train has to stop at these stations to make the tickets vaild.

Denby Dale/Darton/Moorthorpe/South Elmsall count as both SY and WY boundaries, they're basically stations within both areas.

I do apoligise, you are correct

The map on the SYPTE site (http://www.travelsouthyorkshire.com/NR/rdonlyres/5B158170-7204-483C-9EC0-EB3939DD232F/0/ZonalMap.pdf) is very confusing, it shows Denby Dale, Moorthorpe and South Elmsall as outside of the coloured South Yorkshire area but doesn't give an explanation of whether they are valid or invalid.

Checking the FRPP (Staff Fares Manual) which has a much clearer map, I can confirm that all four of the stations listed in Skarpur's post are valid using the South Yorkshire Day Tripper and you would not need to buy a ticket between Penistone and Denby Dale on the Sheffield to Huddersfield line.

Also just out of interest, is the only difference between the Daytripper and the One Day Travelmaster (except for the obvious price difference) that you can use the latter from 0900 and the former from 0930?
 

Skarpur

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Also just out of interest, is the only difference between the Daytripper and the One Day Travelmaster (except for the obvious price difference) that you can use the latter from 0900 and the former from 0930?

I believe that is the case, its just a case of paying an extra £1.10 for the priveledge of being able to catch the train during the morning peak which is fair enough when a standard Anytime ticket costs more.
 
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yorkie

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It looks like South Yorkshire PTE has gone out of it's way to make life easier for customers by subsidising beyond their boundary to allow people to combine the cheap tickets so it doesn't cost an absolute fortune to cross the boundary like it does at Diggle.

No credit to West Yorkshire PTE and GMPTE though who have allowed the ludicrous situation on the main Trans Pennine route where you have to pay for one of the most expensive tickets in the country to cross the boundary.
 

gtis

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hi all
thanks to all who answered my post
looks like i can travel all south yorkshire
and west yorkshire for the total sum of £10.80
can i buy the west yorkshire ticket onboard
the train
neil
 
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clagmonster

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If you board at an unstaffed station, then yes you can buy on board the train. However, if you board at a staffed station then theoretically you have to buy before boarding. All staffed stations in the country can issue a West Yorkshire Day rover, indeed when I bought one on Wednesday from Doncaster it was actually issued on the special West Yorkshire ticket stock.
However, the staff at Leeds are unable to issue a South Yorkshire Daytripper. I don't know whether this is because it isn't actually possible, or because they don't know how to do it. In these circumstances, when I have boarded before the boundary station guards have been willing to issue the South Yorkshire ticket in all cases, even when I have boarded at a staffed station.
One other thing, while we are on the subject, a couple of months ago, I bought a West Yorks family day rover from an out of boundary TPE station, and it simply said 'Family Dayrover as the destination/rover name, which I subsequently commented to TPE about due to issues arrising with the ticket being ambiguous as to its validity to bus drivers. However, the ticket I recently purchased at Doncasterdad printed "West Yorkshire Family Dayrover". Would this now be printed on tickets purchased at TPE stationa?
 

gtis

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as i will be travelling with my disabled son
who has a english national concessions pass
he can travel within west yoskshire for free
without changing trains on northern trains
neil
 
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