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bse35

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In the summer, me and my Mum want to try and climb Snowdon and I would like to get there by public transport.

It would be leaving Bury St Edmunds on the 26th of July and coming back on the 28th and it would be 1 Adult, 1 Child with fam railcard

Please suggest possible cheap options.

TIA
 
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You're looking at getting to Betws-y-coed iirc, then the bus. (ref: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations_destinations/nonrail/poi_uk/snowdon.html )



1 adult, 1 child would be £85.70* buy on the day return, and you would have to avoid London. Probably best going via Manchester/Liverpool, Chester and Llandudno. None of these super cheap Advance type tickets available.

Maybe Bury-Ely-Liverpool-Chester-Llandudno-Betws-y-coed OR
Bury-Ely-Manchester-Llandudno-Betws-y-coed


ONLY 1 POSSIBLE (realistic) JOURNEY THERE THOUGH!! Leaving at 10:29, arriving at 19:48 (possible no bus at that time!)

(Fares liable to increase from May 2011, but at max probably £5ish).
 
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I think there's also a bus service from Bangor to Llanberis, which gives a few more journey options than going to Betws-y-Coed.

Could probably get that price down by splitting the journey and using advanced singles?
 

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This will work out much cheaper for you if you have a Family and Friends Railcard. It will pay for itself in one trip...!
 

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Obviously Advances won't be available for a while, and you'll have to split to make use of them - possibly going via London would give the best deals with Advances.

What about going to Porthmadog and thence WHR into Snowdonia? I don't know if it's a good/possible walk from one of the WHR stops, but it would certainly be a pleasant way of doing it - the Cambrian Coast Line is lovely and I'd think the WHR is great too (not done it yet, but many times on the Festiniog).

Both Porthmadog and Betws-y-Coed are about 8 hours journey, so bring sarnies! Similar prices.
 

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Whoops. Didn't read properly. You already have one. Silly me!!
 

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Bus timetables are here.
If you have never been up Snowdon before, I'd recommend using the Sherpa up to Pen-y-Pass and going up from there. Much more interesting than using the Llanberis path both ways.
 

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We are staying at the Snowden Youth hostel which I think has its own WHR halt.
 

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I think there's also a bus service from Bangor to Llanberis, which gives a few more journey options than going to Betws-y-Coed.

Could probably get that price down by splitting the journey and using advanced singles?

I don't really think ADVANCE tickets are a feasible option here.

Lowest AP between Bury St Ed and Zone 1 London total £9.35 so needing two of those (one for each direction) costs £19.90. (assuming they are even available on early morning trains).

London-Bangor lowest AP come to £8.50, so again £17.

That comes to around £37.00. The likelihood of these tickets being available in Summer Holidays on morning trains (and in both directions) is VERY slim, never mind the other customers wanting to get hold of them if they are released.

The £87 flexible return fare Bury St Eds-Bangor is probably what a combination of AP tickets will come close to totalling anyway (being realistic). Not valid before 09:00 M-F though.

If you want flexible tickets via London, I would advise a Bury St Eds-Dublin ticket routed +HOLYHEAD STENA SHIP (total £99) which would allow you to break your journey at Bangor. No time restriction applies at any time. That fare cannot be discounted with a Family railcard. (£66 for Adult, £33 for Child).
 
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I think your talking about Snowdon Ranger Youth Hostel which is a request stop on the WHR very nice it is too! Its also the start of the Snowdon ranger path up to Snowdon itself. Easiest way to get there is by train to Bangor, then bus to caenarvon, then WHR.
You need to be in Caernavon by at least 17.00 (to get the last WHR train) which may mean an early start from Bury St Edmonds.
 

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I would buy an SVR "any permitted" ticket from Cambridge to Bangor (£64 adult with FF railcard). This is a VT fare so no time restrictions to/from Euston. I don't think there are any restrictions to/from King's Cross either, but no doubt somebody on here will know. 10 minute wait at Chester for an ATW Bangor train if you are not on a through service. For some reason the VT fares do not extend beyond Cambridge.

Connections on XC via Nuneaton are hopeless and not guaranteed.

You would have to get a local bus Bangor to Caernarvon and then the WHR to Rhyd Ddu.

On a good day you can see the summit of Snowdon from Rhyd Ddu WHR station, and the Snowdon Ranger path passes there, but it is a long slog up the hill and not the most interesting route. You could get the Sherpa bus to Pen-y-Pass for the uphill stretch and come down the Ranger to do a circle.

In the good old days I did a day trip from Chester to Snowdon using train to Betws-y-Coed, bus to Pen-y-Pass, PYG track up, Llanberis path down, train back to Chester (in the days when there was still a summer service from Llanberis). Great fun.

Richard

Even better, buy the VT "via London" SVR to Bangor from Newmarket (same fare and conditions as Cambridge - £64.10+£18.45 with FF card).
The XC "Not London" fare from Bury may be a bit cheaper but has an 0930 start restriction both ways and has terrible connections whichever way you go.
 
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If going via London.. On Advance always do check MegaBus/MegaTrain..

Tickets available from London to Crewe which may help, not currently available now..

btw using virgin trains... stagecoach have a stake in virgin..
 

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many thanks for all your replies guys. when do megabus tickets come on sale?
 

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MegaBUS web fares for July should be loaded up now.
Megatrain is usually around six weeks before, methinks.
 

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take the WHR to Beddgellert, there is a path up from there. It is a nice village aswell, if anyone has ever been there before will agree with me on that.
 

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Megatrain is usually around six weeks before, methinks.

I make it 45 days and it becomes available at 5am on that day, unless anything has changed lately. Megatrain fares availability advances by a day at a time.
 

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take the WHR to Beddgellert, there is a path up from there. It is a nice village aswell, if anyone has ever been there before will agree with me on that.

Beddgellert is indeed a lovely village. Highly recommended.

The only problem is that if you are coming from the Porthmadog end, there is at present only one WHR service per day from Porthmadog to Beddgellert, leaving at 0930 and back at 1725. This is due to operating difficulties at Porthmadog Harbour station.
 
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