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Bakerbloke said:
Apparently a Northern local stopper from Picc made it through Dore and is now sitting at Sheffield for the return journey.
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yeah it did... apparently all well and good too
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I think that should read “sitting triumphantly at Sheffield” given the current levels of nationwide disruption. :)
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yeah should certainly do!


that kinda says to me maybe they wussed out earlier....
 
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I think it has been sensible of Northern to "test the waters" first today and turn trains back at Edale, or Grindleford as initially planned, and see how that panned out, instead of charging through to Sheffield immediately and potentially enduring massive delays as things didn't go to plan.

Though there's quite some irony in the fact that there is now a train waiting to take those High Peak commuters home from their offices in Sheffield at the end of the day despite the fact that none of said commuters were able to get there this morning in the first place...
 
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jimmyowl1992 said:
normalize points? sorry never heard that before
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The two detected positions of the points are known as normal and reverse. The normal position often but not always corresponds to the principal route, though I'd be surprised if there was anything physically locking them specifically in that position.
 
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True, but no other TOC is running to Manchester via Hope Valley since both EMT and TPE have not run anything all day.

EMT's website also says Sheffield to St P services are running except for a FEW cancellations. Yeh, the 17.27 and 17.35 are both cancelled!
 
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The departures board at Piccadilly this afternoon made for very grim reading.
 
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All Sheffield University lectures were cancelled today, and they've just cancelled all tomorrow morning's ones too (with a decision on the afternoon to be made early tomorrow). Doesn't really affect me personally though as I'm non-teaching staff and I generally work from home half the week anyway, regardless of the weather...
 
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...so no complaints here in Kentucky where we have had 6" of rain over one week, but only several hours of light snow flurries lately - enough to cover grassy areas but not roads.

My employer just put out the usual annual "snow bulletin" about the snow emergency levels (1,2, and 3) for this coming winter. You are only excused from work when the county declares a level 3 which is basically when the police say they will ticket anyone driving that is not involved with an emergency or snow removal.

I am glad I can work from home almost full-time now.
 
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No buses today in Sheffield or the rest of South Yorkshire, and North Derbyshire and Basetlaw. Well over a foot of snow and still at it!
 
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brompton rail said:
No buses today in Sheffield or the rest of South Yorkshire, and North Derbyshire and Basetlaw. Well over a foot of snow and still at it!
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There were, just no First ones.

Stagecoach put on buses for the 25, 79, 87, 88. Credit to them for doing so, in horrible conditions, but passenger numbers seemed to be in single figures on the journeys I saw, so they'll have lost money on making this effort.
 
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There were, just no First ones.

Stagecoach put on buses for the 25, 79, 87, 88. Credit to them for doing so, in horrible conditions, but passenger numbers seemed to be in single figures on the journeys I saw, so they'll have lost money on making this effort.
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yeah but when im home (chapeltown) i always catch satgecoach rather thanf irst cos they put in the effort

and i know a few people who feel the same
 
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sprinterguy said:
This is by no means the first time the UK has seen snowfall in winter, it happens pretty much every year in fact, .
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There is some historical info about that here...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11887777
....Despite three consecutive years of significant snow, we still find it a novelty. That might not be unrelated to a long period - 1989 to 2002 - where the westerlies didn't weaken and we had mild winters, says Mr Eden.



If you were born in the 1980s or 1990s, the recent snowy years must seem rather exciting. Mr Eden concedes there might very well be a relationship between snow fascination and snow frequency in the UK...




...For many people though, there is something fascinating about the snow. It's easy to forget that we've had some ferociously cold snowy post-war winters, like 1947 and 1963, when the snow-restricted period in the 1990s is so recent.
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Hmm now I think of it, we didn't get much snow in the 1990s, although I always wished for it to snow!
 
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yorkie said:
There is some historical info about that here...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11887777
Hmm now I think of it, we didn't get much snow in the 1990s, although I always wished for it to snow!
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I agree - the snow we have seen this week (and that we have had over the past couple of winter) reminds me of the snow we used to have when I was at school in the late 70s and 1980s. The one big difference I do find though is in all that time I can only remember my school being closed ONCE - and that was due to the boiler having failed so the school was 'NB'. It seems that now, we have an inch of snow and half the country's schools shut.
 
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the rail services got hit hard where i live yesterday (1st december 2010) because of a train went through a red light and frozen points at cambridge
and frozen points at bishop stortford
broxbourne
harlow mill
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A nice set of pictures here, linked from The Guardian website, of a snow plough in action on the Esk Valley line
 
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Transport Secretary Philip Hammond has been told to "get a grip" on the snow which is affecting roads, rail and planes across the UK.

Speaking in the Commons, Shadow transport secretary Maria Eagle claimed he was "demonstrating a breathtaking degree of complacency".

Mr Hammond has asked the chairman of the RAC Foundation, David Quarmby, to review how transport has coped.

But Ms Eagle asked why the findings of the previous review had been ignored.

Travellers using roads and railways are struggling to get into work and two airports - Edinburgh and London Gatwick - are still closed.

The AA has criticised the "lack of resilience" of the UK's infrastructure.

AA president Edmund King said: "We might have more salt than last year but we need better planning to allow gritters through heavy traffic and blocked roads.

"Some highway authorities have invested in new gritters but again we hear that farmers offering to use tractors as snow ploughs were prevented from doing so as the insurance had not come through. This is not good enough."
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11897762
 
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