• Our new ticketing site is now live! Using either this or the original site (both powered by TrainSplit) helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchase! Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread!

SkyScraperCity website down

Status
Not open for further replies.
Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; click here to register, or click here to log in
R

RailUK Forums

I

Ironside

Member
Joined
16 Aug 2012
Messages
418
DJH1971 said:
Just tried it again, but my PC wasn't having it.

Did a Windows diagnostic check just this moment, which told that my PC is correctly configured and that there appears to be something wrong with the website. :-x
Click to expand...

I am using an iPad and still no problems.
 
Manchester77

Manchester77

Established Member
Joined
4 Jun 2012
Messages
2,628
Location
Manchester
According to one of the IT people for SCC on twitter it's working again now but evidently it's not since as the posters above cannot access it and nor can I so don't really know what's going on now!
 
I

Ironside

Member
Joined
16 Aug 2012
Messages
418
Manchester77 said:
According to one of the IT people for SCC on twitter it's working again now but evidently it's not since as the posters above cannot access it and nor can I so don't really know what's going on now!
Click to expand...

Doesn't work for me now. I guess it will be down forvavwhile if people are attacking it.
 
Manchester77

Manchester77

Established Member
Joined
4 Jun 2012
Messages
2,628
Location
Manchester
So to access the site would the user (i.e you/me/whoever) have to manually change the DNS servers or does the ISP do so (so in my case virgin) when they're informed?
 
starrymarkb

starrymarkb

Established Member
Joined
4 Aug 2009
Messages
5,985
Location
Exeter
Your ISP will do it automatically. It can take up to 48 hours for ISPs worldwide to update (depends on how often they refresh their domain records)

so for example if railforums.co.uk was pointing at servers at IP Address "1.2.3.4" and the owners moved to a new ISP at IP Address "5.6.7.8" then a transfer would be put in with the regulator (NominetUK for .uk domains) to update the domain "railforums.co.uk" to point at the new IP in the public records. ISPs then fetch the records at regular intervals but until they do users of that ISP will be directed to the old site. Most sites will run old and new side by side for a couple of days to ensure the changeover was successful and avoid interruption of service. Skyscrapercity may not have had that option.

I should add that it's probably more technical then that but that's my understanding of it from owning a domain.
 
Last edited:
Rapidash

Rapidash

Member
Joined
3 Sep 2013
Messages
686
Location
Torbaydos, Devon
Interesting place isn't it? Gives you a good indication of the general upturn throughout the country. Well, apart from Cornwall. Or Torbay :lol:

Discovered the place about a femtosecond before it went down as well. Definitely been back up for the last day or so though.
 
D

DownSouth

Established Member
Joined
10 Dec 2011
Messages
1,545
starrymarkb said:
Your ISP will do it automatically. It can take up to 48 hours for ISPs worldwide to update (depends on how often they refresh their domain records)

so for example if railforums.co.uk was pointing at servers at IP Address "1.2.3.4" and the owners moved to a new ISP at IP Address "5.6.7.8" then a transfer would be put in with the regulator (NominetUK for .uk domains) to update the domain "railforums.co.uk" to point at the new IP in the public records. ISPs then fetch the records at regular intervals but until they do users of that ISP will be directed to the old site. Most sites will run old and new side by side for a couple of days to ensure the changeover was successful and avoid interruption of service. Skyscrapercity may not have had that option.
Click to expand...
One way this can be worked around is to use a different DNS server instead of the one operated by your ISP.

I have the DNS settings on my computer (a Mac can bypass the modem's DNS settings) changed from the default to use Google DNS (8.8.8.8 and a backup address of 8.8.4.4) as I've found that they update more often than my IPS's DNS server does and it provides a faster ping/lookup time. There's also OpenDNS which performs a similar service, including an option to have a 'clean feed' without phishing or porn.
starrymarkb said:
I should add that it's probably more technical then that but that's my understanding of it from owning a domain.
Click to expand...
It's close enough for this purpose :D
 
Y

yorkie

Forum Staff
Staff Member
Administrator
Joined
6 Jun 2005
Messages
78,316
Location
Yorkshire
DownSouth said:
...I have the DNS settings on my computer (a Mac can bypass the modem's DNS settings) ...
Click to expand...
Not just a Mac, it should be possible to edit the "hosts file" on almost any operating system (unless it is 'locked down' of course!). However we'd need to know the new IP address of the SkyScraperCity website! Edit: It's working for me now! 198.41.184.78.

And.... a modem? How quaint! ;)
 
Last edited:
Manchester77

Manchester77

Established Member
Joined
4 Jun 2012
Messages
2,628
Location
Manchester
Well it's been working alright for me and now I got this message image.jpg
Hope it's just a temporary issue but it's annoying when it keeps happening.
 
starrymarkb

starrymarkb

Established Member
Joined
4 Aug 2009
Messages
5,985
Location
Exeter
Not much you can do. The problem is at their end. You'll just have to wait for it to sort out :)
 
Crossover

Crossover

Established Member
Joined
4 Jun 2009
Messages
9,493
Location
Yorkshire
starrymarkb said:
I should add that it's probably more technical then that but that's my understanding of it from owning a domain.
Click to expand...

I would also say you have pretty much got it summed up in that :)

EDIT: There is also the local cache on the user PC and possibly home router too (as by default DNS lookups will go via the home router)

Paul Sidorczuk said:
I tried inputting that coded information above and received the following message:-

ERROR 1003

Direct IP access not allowed.
Click to expand...

Yeah, it isn't that simplistic unfortunately. What often happens is that one server (i.e. witj one address) will host multiple websites, with the host name specified in the header of the web request. Thus, when you connect to such an address, it doesn't know which website you actually want so puts you onto the default page for that server, in this case an error page :)
 
Last edited:
Y

yorkie

Forum Staff
Staff Member
Administrator
Joined
6 Jun 2005
Messages
78,316
Location
Yorkshire
Paul Sidorczuk said:
I tried inputting that coded information above and received the following message:-

ERROR 1003

Direct IP access not allowed.
Click to expand...
I don't think you followed the hosts file link?

This explains that a hosts file is a plain text file containing a list of IP addresses and domains, and its location depends on the operating system you have.

Once this is in place, your computer will be looking at the IP address you specify for the domain, rather than the IP address your ISP tells it to use.

I also wouldn't attempt to edit a hosts file unless you know what you're doing and make a backup though.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Top