Single MK3 Sleeper on its own...

[alexl92]

In another thread relating to coach couplings etc, the OP posted a couple of images showing a single Caledonian Sleeper MK3 on its own at a platform in a station - I've attached them below.

What I'm confused by is simply why a single MK3 sleeper carriage would be sitting on its own (ie not part of a rake or attached to a loco) in a platform on the mainline. Seems a bit odd to me.

Can anyone enlighten me?

Many thanks

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Caledonian_Sleeper_carriage_at_Crewe_%281%29.JPG

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Caledonian_Sleeper_carriage_at_Crewe_%282%29.JPG

 

[u10207420]

This was some number of months ago at Crewe, from memory it was due to a failure and removed out of the rake, Sleeper continued south load 15 ...

After a 30 second research to refresh my mind ... I remember photting this in person it was removed on 18/10/2013 ... so never mind months, we are talking years

 

[Brian Aylott]

Alex
Aren't all single sleepers on their own?!
Brian

 

[Bald Rick]

Back in my day (etc etc) ... Anyway, the down Glasgow sleeper used to detach a portion for Carlisle, and I'm pretty sure that in the latter days that used to be just a single sleeper coach. There was a corresponding attachment in the up direction too. In both cases it is quite likely that a coach was on its own at times.

 

[47271]

The Carlisle portion was actually two coaches, presumably one First and one Standard. In the up direction, you went to bed at a normal time in Platform 8 and at around 1am a psychopath in an 08 shunter propelled you across the station at 80mph and slammed you into the back of the waiting Glasgow to Euston train at a similar speed.

That's what it felt like anyway.

 

[HLE]

The Carlisle portion was actually two coaches, presumably one First and one Standard. In the up direction, you went to bed at a normal time in Platform 8 and at around 1am a psychopath in an 08 shunter propelled you across the station at 80mph and slammed you into the back of the waiting Glasgow to Euston train at a similar speed.

That's what it felt like anyway.

Got to keep the job going !!

 

[6Gman]

Back in my day (etc etc) ... Anyway, the down Glasgow sleeper used to detach a portion for Carlisle, and I'm pretty sure that in the latter days that used to be just a single sleeper coach. There was a corresponding attachment in the up direction too. In both cases it is quite likely that a coach was on its own at times.

Preston had a single SLC which sat in a bay at the north end of the station all day.

(Was Exeter also a single coach?)

 

[alexl92]

Alex
Aren't all single sleepers on their own?!
Brian

Yes, Brian, you're absolutely right!

I suppose I was clarifying that it was not attached to anything - as opposed to being a single sleeper coach within a rake of ordinary seated/day coaches!

 

[theblackwatch]

The Carlisle portion was actually two coaches, presumably one First and one Standard. In the up direction, you went to bed at a normal time in Platform 8 and at around 1am a psychopath in an 08 shunter propelled you across the station at 80mph and slammed you into the back of the waiting Glasgow to Euston train at a similar speed.

That's what it felt like anyway.

When I did the Carlisle portion in the 90s, there was a Mk.2d BFK with the sleeper (or sleepers - I cannot remember if it was one or two), presumably as there was a requirement for a brake vehicle in the shunt with the 08. From what I remember, the BFK didn't get added to the main train consist.

 

[Phil.]

This was some number of months ago at Crewe, from memory it was due to a failure and removed out of the rake, Sleeper continued south load 15 ...

After a 30 second research to refresh my mind ... I remember photting this in person it was removed on 18/10/2013 ... so never mind months, we are talking years

Photting - trainspotting term? What does it mean?

 

[najaB]

Photting - trainspotting term? What does it mean?

Photographs as a log instead of (or in addition to) a book. A portmanteaux of photographing and spotting.

 

[30907]

The Carlisle portion was actually two coaches, presumably one First and one Standard. In the up direction, you went to bed at a normal time in Platform 8 and at around 1am a psychopath in an 08 shunter propelled you across the station at 80mph and slammed you into the back of the waiting Glasgow to Euston train at a similar speed.

That's what it felt like anyway.

80 with an 08 - now that's an image to mull over. -
BTW the driver's sibling or offspring works for Slovak Railways at Zilina.

 

[fgwrich]

Preston had a single SLC which sat in a bay at the north end of the station all day.

(Was Exeter also a single coach?)

Plymouth was in its later days, pretty sure Exeter didn't have a portion - no shunter at Exeter, whereas the Plymouth portions just utilised a Laira 08.

 

[Scotrail84]

In another thread relating to coach couplings etc, the OP posted a couple of images showing a single Caledonian Sleeper MK3 on its own at a platform in a station - I've attached them below.

What I'm confused by is simply why a single MK3 sleeper carriage would be sitting on its own (ie not part of a rake or attached to a loco) in a platform on the mainline. Seems a bit odd to me.

Can anyone enlighten me?

Many thanks

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Caledonian_Sleeper_carriage_at_Crewe_%281%29.JPG

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Caledonian_Sleeper_carriage_at_Crewe_%282%29.JPG

Sorry to bring up an old thread but there is another caley sleeper coach lying in number 10 bay platform at Crewe, it was removed from 1S25 on Wednesday night due to defect if anybody wants a photo of it.

 

[59CosG95]

Sorry to bring up an old thread but there is another caley sleeper coach lying in number 10 bay platform at Crewe, it was removed from 1S25 on Wednesday night due to defect if anybody wants a photo of it.

Apparently there was an electrical failure on the coach; initial specualtion was down to a faulty microwave, but a friend of mine who works for CS said that was only one piece in the puzzle.

 

[Scotrail84]

Apparently there was an electrical failure on the coach; initial specualtion was down to a faulty microwave, but a friend of mine who works for CS said that was only one piece in the puzzle.

Nothing to do with microwave mate. Something a bit more technical than that. Not sure how long that coach will lie there.

Was your friend on the train when this happened?

 

[AndyHA]

Plymouth was in its later days, pretty sure Exeter didn't have a portion - no shunter at Exeter, whereas the Plymouth portions just utilised a Laira 08.

Back in the early 1970s , Exeter did have a sleeping car . Which was attached and detatched from the otherwise train formed of " day " coaches . In those days there were two over-nights to Penzance . As we called them , The sleepers , and the Wakers !

During my time at Plymouth Station in the early to mid 1970s . There was a third overnight on a Sunday night only from Paddington to Plymouth . For the benifit of Royal Navy personnel, who had to be back on ship or in barracks by 0700 on a Monday morning .

This third train arrived at Plymouth 0530 to 0600 hrs . Then there was a mad dash for the waiting Taxi cabs to take the sailors etc to the Dockyard etc .

 

[Tim R-T-C]

80 with an 08 - now that's an image to mull over. -
BTW the driver's sibling or offspring works for Slovak Railways at Zilina.

Interesting family, their other son works for Italian railways shunting the sleeper cars on and off the Siciliy train ferry.

 

[paul1609]

Back in the early 1970s , Exeter did have a sleeping car . Which was attached and detatched from the otherwise train formed of " day " coaches . In those days there were two over-nights to Penzance . As we called them , The sleepers , and the Wakers !

During my time at Plymouth Station in the early to mid 1970s . There was a third overnight on a Sunday night only from Paddington to Plymouth . For the benifit of Royal Navy personnel, who had to be back on ship or in barracks by 0700 on a Monday morning .

This third train arrived at Plymouth 0530 to 0600 hrs . Then there was a mad dash for the waiting Taxi cabs to take the sailors etc to the Dockyard etc .

Before my time Im afraid but I did use the Sleeper for just this purpose in the 90s and early 00s. Ive always wonders why the railway never used to stop trains at Keyham which is an easy walk from HMS Drake and the Southyard.
Im sure the decline in Railway usage by Naval Personel was partly because of the extortionate fares charged by Plymouth Taxis and the fact that there often only seemed to be 2 operating in the city on Sundays nights.
Trudging 3 miles in the rain with your kit wasn't much fun when you didn't have the £8 for 3 miles, especially when you'd only paid £28 for the return to the South Coast.

 

[185143]

Nothing to do with microwave mate. Something a bit more technical than that. Not sure how long that coach will lie there.

Was your friend on the train when this happened?

I assume you are unable to state what the problem actually was?