Hi, i have just managed to get an off for a grade 2 position at crag hall, i was just wondering if any one else knows how much i will realistically end up with in a month the role specifies 23 - 25k. However, i have read their is extra for sunday hours and night shifts ect can any one give a realistic figure from experience?
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Don't know about that location so don't know how much overtime there is but can tell you basic is £1946 per 4 weeks, Sunday 12 hours £250 days £229 night but you get another £11 for each night, rest day working 8 hours £139. There are lots of different rates depending on when you work how many hours such as 3 hours for £104.
Are you full time or fixed term contract?
Are you full time or fixed term contract?
The higher of the two annual rates specified will be the one that's relevant (the lower one, presumably grade 1 pay, applies during your training). For a grade 2 job, you can expect to get to something around £30k (very approximately) by working booked Sundays and little bits here and there, and £35k with quite a bit more overtime. Obviously a lot depends on how much overtime is available (if you do want it), and also what Sunday turns, booked or otherwise, are on offer. That's all before tax, and comes in 13 packets over the course of the year (every four weeks rather than monthly).
Hi, thanks for all the info very helpfull and its a lot more than i was expecting, its also wayyyy more than i was paid in my old job. Its full time fixed for 12 months but my manager said they wont be getting rid of me when that ends as it costs a lot for them to train people up and hire them so hopefully it will be a job long into the future.
So to clarify. If the advertisement says £XXX, depending on the box you could get more if you worked Sundays and shift allowance for nights.
I've applied for a couple and it says £28,000 but am I to take it that this is the basic bottom line you will get, and Mac says with Sundays and other extra shifts you could earn quite a few more pennies?
I've applied for a couple and it says £28,000 but am I to take it that this is the basic bottom line you will get, and Mac says with Sundays and other extra shifts you could earn quite a few more pennies?
Yes, Sundays are always overtime (at 1.5x basic hourly pay) - most boxes have at least one booked Sunday shift in the base roster (depends on the opening times) which you're committed to unless cover can be found, and engineering requirements sometimes require extra shifts (where the box isn't open continuously) which will be offered to a resident if no relief men can work it. Any rest day work is paid at 1.25x. So yes, virtually everyone will earn more before deductions than that basic level!
Is there no real rulings of how many hours you can do then? I know with train drivers its 4 on 4 off, and no more than 11 hours work. 12 if the 12th hour is not driving.
I would have thought being a safety critical role and the concentration involved, in a busy box and even the concentration to stay alert in a less busy box and the demands of the role would have some strict working time directives.
Out of interest what is the average working week? How much actually overtime could you realistically do, or your manager allow you to do? There seems to be plenty on this forum about driving and guards, but not so much in signalling.
For us - broadly similar to drivers, I think - the main rostering restrictions are 12hr maximum shift length, minimum 12hrs rest between shifts, no more than 13 days worked out of 14 and no more than 72hrs worked in a week. The base roster will be nowhere near as demanding as that though, so it's your choice how much you push yourself beyond that (a week of, mostly, twelves really can be hard going).
The base roster works out at a weekly average of 35hrs excluding Sundays, but some weeks will be more than that and some less. A four man box, open continuously, will go up to an average of 41hrs with Sundays included, but that's the 'worst case scenario' in terms of committed hours. I'd never ever recommend relying on overtime, but there does seem to be loads of it about in most areas, as the other Tom says. I've worked at least one rest day most weeks, quite a few Sundays and occasional twelves (instead of my booked 8hrs), and even at that been offered quite a bit more.
The base roster works out at a weekly average of 35hrs excluding Sundays, but some weeks will be more than that and some less. A four man box, open continuously, will go up to an average of 41hrs with Sundays included, but that's the 'worst case scenario' in terms of committed hours. I'd never ever recommend relying on overtime, but there does seem to be loads of it about in most areas, as the other Tom says. I've worked at least one rest day most weeks, quite a few Sundays and occasional twelves (instead of my booked 8hrs), and even at that been offered quite a bit more.
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]Hi everyone, just looking for some advice.
I have just applied for a Signaller postion for Northallerton. This is a total career change for me as i was a staff nurse. I recieved an email from Network Rail yesterday with a link for slhdirect.com. I answered 16 {situational) questions today. What happens next ? thanks in advance.
I have just applied for a Signaller postion for Northallerton. This is a total career change for me as i was a staff nurse. I recieved an email from Network Rail yesterday with a link for slhdirect.com. I answered 16 {situational) questions today. What happens next ? thanks in advance.
Hi brp46
Next stage if you are successful will be a call to a test centre which involves sitting numerous test papers. Takes about 4 hours in total. If you are in the top achievers after that stage....Managers interview (using 8 Non Technical Skills). Good Luck Fella!
Next stage if you are successful will be a call to a test centre which involves sitting numerous test papers. Takes about 4 hours in total. If you are in the top achievers after that stage....Managers interview (using 8 Non Technical Skills). Good Luck Fella!
Thanks Bluejuice for your reply, will i be waiting long from the test i done today ?
Not familiar with the 8 non tech skills.
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scrap that lol, is this the skills.
Conscientiousness
Communications
Working with Others
Willingness & Ability to Learn
Planning and Decision Making
Multi Task Capacity
Controlled Under Pressure
Attention Management
Not familiar with the 8 non tech skills.
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scrap that lol, is this the skills.
Conscientiousness
Communications
Working with Others
Willingness & Ability to Learn
Planning and Decision Making
Multi Task Capacity
Controlled Under Pressure
Attention Management
I heard quite fast after the situational judgement test, but took a while to actually be given a date for the next stage although i found out i was at the next stage quite fast. The assesment centre told me i had passed pretty much the same day but again took a while to get a date for the interview. Let me kniw if i can help with anything as its all still quite fresg in my mind.
Is this Crag Hall near Saltburn?
If so, budget for reading material - four trains a day maximum last time I was there
Is this Crag Hall near Saltburn?
If so, budget for reading material - four trains a day maximum last time I was there
Yeah it is haha i had a feeling it would be a quiet box, still heads above my current job though even if it will be a little slower haha
is it accepted that signallers will read books ect to keep them selves occupied during quiet periods?
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You'll love it if you can keep boredom at bay - two DBS services a day mon-fri into Skinningrove and two FLHH services a day into Boulby potash (staff working so you'll have to get off your arse at least once a shift ).
Put a book of your choice in a sec appendix outer cover and you should be fine...
).Put a book of your choice in a sec appendix outer cover and you should be fine...
what type of rules are there against reading? if you're able to read, can you listen to the radio, surf the web watch telly. i understand reason for not being able to do this, but surly as well as acting as a distraction from doing the job, they also act as a method to keep you awake and concentration levels up. Are there any do's and don'ts activities frowned upon?
There's no problem at all with reading books - most of ours have a substantial library (as Tom correctly notes above!). Radios are now allowed in certain boxes (generally up to and including grade 3?) - until recently, they were very much verboten but unofficially tolerated. TVs aren't allowed, but the web may be surfed on the computer (if you can call it that) in the box. You'll also find that most single-manned boxes have a very comfortable horizontal surface somewhere...!
Surly the temptation would be too much, esp on night shifts.
"A friend" of mine used to sleep through 100% of his night shifts.
So are you talking a few days or weeks to hear about the situational judgement test. Kind
I regards Barry.
Everyone has 5 days to complete the SJT. So once all results are in 5 days after the application closes, you should find out within a couple of days if you are through to the next stage,
You normally find out within days if you have passed the SJT.
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To all who have applied and waiting to hear. Good luck to you all. I have been on the railway since 1991 and am currently a Mobile Operations Manager (in between a signaller and their line manager a Local Operation Manager) and I'm basically an incident response manager, the person that no signaller or driver ever wants to see.
The training if I remember rightly from when I went through it is roughly between 3 to 4 months with a combination of school and on the job training, hence the remark one of you got from one of the line managers.
Training isn't easy as there is a lot of rules and regulations to go through but once you have got through them a job on the railway is a good job and well paid for what you have to do on a day to day basis. I look at it that we are paid well for a few reasons. The rules and regulations we need to know, the unsocial hours we do and especially when the job goes wrong.
The signalling grade is known for moaning, I still do that myself, but if you sit down with people and get beyond the moaning you will find that the majority of people realise we have a cracking job with a company that deep down does look after their staff when you compare them to industries outside the railway.
If you are successful I hope you enjoy your time on Network Rail as I still do after nearly 24 years.
All the best
The training if I remember rightly from when I went through it is roughly between 3 to 4 months with a combination of school and on the job training, hence the remark one of you got from one of the line managers.
Training isn't easy as there is a lot of rules and regulations to go through but once you have got through them a job on the railway is a good job and well paid for what you have to do on a day to day basis. I look at it that we are paid well for a few reasons. The rules and regulations we need to know, the unsocial hours we do and especially when the job goes wrong.
The signalling grade is known for moaning, I still do that myself, but if you sit down with people and get beyond the moaning you will find that the majority of people realise we have a cracking job with a company that deep down does look after their staff when you compare them to industries outside the railway.
If you are successful I hope you enjoy your time on Network Rail as I still do after nearly 24 years.
All the best
If there is one thing i will take from my new job its that it is a million times better than the jobs i have had previously in opportunity, fiscal reward and how the company look after us its head and shoulders above where i have came from, so i will never moan about my role because i will always remeber where i came from.
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Oh... you will!
Thanks
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