HSTEd
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THere was rather more to the Great Western Modernisation than Electrification.For the total cost of HS2?? GWML Electrification cost £2.8 billion, HS2 Phase 1 alone is costing £40 billion, and is already £1.2 billion over that budget, and we haven't even really started work on a station.
Reading station rebuild cost ~£900m alone!
We stop trying to kid ourselves that the bulk of our railway infrastructure is at all fit for purpose.So what is your suggestion? We just continue to let the rest of the country decay, and in 20 years we just have HS2 and HS1, which themselves will be decaying by that point? What I'm suggesting is spending that money on maintaining the rest of the country, and upgrades that are needed to keep services up to spec.
Upgrades will just result in ever more money being thrown in the bottomless pit that is the classic railway, that is being pushed far harder than it is capable of economically.
250m is not significantly longer than a 9-car IEP, and there are a hell of a lot of those running around!unless we're planning on carting empty air around, and then you have to split fleets for places that can't handle 250m.
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OFcourse its a mess and ofcourse it has blown its budget, but the reality is we are going to get far more capability than an upgrade programme of the same cost would, once the inevitable overruns in the upgrade programme are factored in.And just to pick up on this again, you're suggesting HS2 hasn't already overblown its budget? The official figures are low because the government has held back on actually setting one, but given it is already projected to cost more than double its original cost when it was first envisaged, and a leg of it has had to be cut because of its cost, it is no more of a failure than the GWRM was already, and it isn't even nearly finished, in fact half of that cost is going on parts we haven't even broken ground on, nor are the immediate plans to.