Sheffield to Nottingham/Derby - valid via East Mids Parkway?

[button_boxer]

As far as I can tell the answer is yes but I just wanted to double check with the experts...

I know Sheffield to Nottingham is valid via Derby and Sheffield to Derby is valid via Nottingham, but can you do the DBY-NOT or vice-versa leg via a change at East Midlands Parkway or does it have to be the direct Long Eaton to Attenborough side of the triangle? In particular, would I be valid on a SHF-DBY CDR to go SHF-NOT direct (break outward journey), then later EMD-SHF via DBY (resuming the outward at EMD and switching to the return at DBY)?

The reason this is of interest is that the last direct NOT-SHF train on a Sunday is around half past 9, but there's one an hour later from EMD and I have the option to get dropped off there by a friend.

(and SHF-DBY CDR is £10.80, SHF-NOT CDR is £12.80, SHF-EMD has no CDR, and the SVR is a whopping £19.20)

 

[bb21]

Yes, it is perfectly permitted.

 

[323235]

For Sheffield - Derby Map SY shows Sheffield - Nottingham - Loughborough - Derby so does allow travel via Nottingham/East Midlands Parkway.

For Sheffield - Nottingham via East Midlands Parkway there is a negative easement which prevents travel being made by the desired route.

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Customers travelling from/via Sheffield to Nottingham and beyond may not
travel via East Midlands Parkway. This easement applies in both directions.

 

[bb21]

Make what you will of that negative easement. What about Sheffield - London via Nottingham if it is taken at face value?

 

[323235]

The way I read the easement I consider that it only applies when doing Sheffield-East Midlands Parkway-Nottingham though that's just my interpretation so wouldn't affect any journeys going Sheffield - Nottingham via the most direct route or via Derby then onto London. Plus any journey on a direct train or shortest route (and within three miles) wouldn't require consultation of the routing guide.

 

[MichaelAMW]

The way I read the easement I consider that it only applies when doing Sheffield-East Midlands Parkway-Nottingham though that's just my interpretation so wouldn't affect any journeys going Sheffield - Nottingham via the most direct route or via Derby then onto London. Plus any journey on a direct train or shortest route (and within three miles) wouldn't require consultation of the routing guide.

Based on brief checks, the online booking engines only seem to apply the easement for tickets from Sheffield to Nottingham, but not for via either of them.

 

[323235]

Yes this has been true since the easement was first added.

 

[kieron]

Based on brief checks, the online booking engines only seem to apply the easement for tickets from Sheffield to Nottingham, but not for via either of them.

button_boxer would be better off buying a Sheffield-Attenborough CDR or something in the first place. It's better to travel on a technically valid ticket that a technically invalid one, just in case you meet a member of EMT staff who is in a bad mood.

 

[button_boxer]

This is looking like a moot point now as it turns out Long Eaton is more convenient than EMD for the part of Nottingham we'll be in, but thanks for the advice which I will bear in mind for future reference.