GusB
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The topic of the thread is seat locations, not the comfort or otherwise of the actual seats themselves. The thread title has been amended to clarify this.
A lot of dockers?It very much depends on the bus.
Outside of London the only deckers that I tend to use are on the Oxford park and ride. On those I always prefer to be upstairs at a table seat. The one I avoid is the sofa as I often feel a little queasy using it.
As a general rule I just pick a seat that appears to have a decent amount of legroom. That rules out the upstairs front on a lot of dockers.
I never noticed the smoke when I was young. The back upper deck seat with arm rests on an RT was my favourite. Downstairs I went for the bench seats over the rear wheels.Donkeys years ago it was not much fun (if the bottom deck was full ) sitting up stairs, as I had contact lenses that were no good with all the smokers all chugging away.
I remember when I went on school trips as a young child being told that we weren't allowed to sit there. Apparently the issue was that with nothing to stop them, a sudden stop could send a child flying down the length of the bus!TfL have got rid of the middle seat on back row on buses delivered from few months ago, so one of the nicest located seats are no more
TfL have got rid of the middle seat (both upstairs and downstairs) on back row on buses delivered since few months ago, so one of the nicest located seats are no more
Apparently is a safety thing, worried passenger will fly out the seat in a crash and hit the first person standing in the aisle (not that I see how the person standing will be upright if the crash is enough to eject passengers from their seats)
Issue with them seats if its busy you will have to let people out from your left and right.
London Buses for the last 20 years have generally all had decent legroom upstairs, indeed the Borismasters are probably the most cramped.Overall I'd rather they installed decent legroom throughout the bus, which has the advantage that people with luggage can put it by their knees/feet. The buses used on the 205 seem to have better spacing than others which really improves things. People are not getting smaller.
I dont think you can install decent leg room as you may install say air conditioning.Overall I'd rather they installed decent legroom throughout the bus, which has the advantage that people with luggage can put it by their knees/feet. The buses used on the 205 seem to have better spacing than others which really improves things. People are not getting smaller.
London Buses for the last 20 years have generally all had decent legroom upstairs, indeed the Borismasters are probably the most cramped.
Overall I'd rather they installed decent legroom throughout the bus, which has the advantage that people with luggage can put it by their knees/feet. The buses used on the 205 seem to have better spacing than others which really improves things. People are not getting smaller.
We were almost always allowed to sit there on school trips although my mum tells me that at the primary school she works at they're not.I remember when I went on school trips as a young child being told that we weren't allowed to sit there. Apparently the issue was that with nothing to stop them, a sudden stop could send a child flying down the length of the bus!

"older" - ha! Out in the sticks there's still plenty of those E200s whining and rattling their way around, and there's no sign of them being replaced any time soon. In my mind, some of them are still pretty much new! But yes, the emergency exit row does have the most legroom even in non London ones, at least on the Stagecoach examples.The best seat on older London single deckers like Pointer Darts, E200s and Wright Cadets is near the back on the offside, where the emergency exit used to be. Loads of legroom! Indeed on the Wright Cadets, the wheel arch made a lovely footrest![]()
There are plenty of aging E200s in London"older" - ha! Out in the sticks there's still plenty of those E200s whining and rattling their way around, and there's no sign of them being replaced any time soon. In my mind, some of them are still pretty much new! But yes, the emergency exit row does have the most legroom even in non London ones, at least on the Stagecoach examples.
