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Apologies for the rather basic question, but which routes tend to be single and which tend to be double? If the ones you've sent are representative, and the singles tend to be on the more rural services whereas doubles are on the more express routes, then that seems quite sensible - I would be concerned if the more lifeline and infrequent services were heavily reserved, but a route like Glasgow to Perth/Inverness/Aberdeen (which probably doesn't pick up too much custom outside of the main centres) is probably more suitable for a higher proportion of reservations.
There isn’t really standard “single” and “double” decker routes, more luck to be honest and depends who it’s ran by

The most common to have deckers is the M9, M92, M10, M8, M90 and (now only pretty rare AIR) however it’s known to have single deckers on it aswell. I’m sure there’s more I’ve forgotten but this is what i can remember as of now

The 900 always has double deckers

Rest of the routes are usually single deckers
 
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The West Highland services in the summer can be full upon leaving Glasgow, leaving people behind. Ember on the these routes must help.

Looks like from the screenshots above that only the front or section of coach is reservable like what Megabus do.

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There isn’t really standard “single” and “double” decker routes, more luck to be honest and depends who it’s ran by

The most common to have deckers is the M9, M92, M10, M8, M90 and (now only pretty rare AIR) however it’s known to have single deckers on it aswell. I’m sure there’s more I’ve forgotten but this is what i can remember as of now

The 900 always has double deckers

Rest of the routes are usually single deckers
Yes, the AIR is mostly single decker Irizars now, with odd Pano that is still in fleet. The 900 has a few single workings, unsure what time these operate.
 
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The West Highland services in the summer can be full upon leaving Glasgow, leaving people behind. Ember on the these routes must help.

Looks like from the screenshots above that only the front or section of coach is reservable like what Megabus do.

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Yes, the AIR is mostly single decker Irizars now, with odd Pano that is still in fleet. The 900 has a few single workings, unsure what time these operate.
Parks often run 9700DDs on their share of the AIR as well
 

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I notice even on Megabus site for Citylink you have to reserve on that as well, was looking at the services in November and on the 2 coaches I looked at didn't seem much seats available and seat reserves between £2-4? How does it work say if you don't reserve a seat? I understand being allocated it but would you then be charged for it on the day?

I also noted the price differences between Citylink/Megabus on site a rough difference of £20? Megabus being cheaper (megabus with no supporting app yet citylink does?), this includes adding the reservations

Dates looked at 24 November and 28 November Dundee-Glasgow return
 
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How does it work say if you don't reserve a seat?
On the website it says you get allocated one at random, yet on the same website when booking it shows a section of unreserved seats.

So either (in a scenario where the whole coach is booked) you’ll get assigned a seat at random or you’ll not get a seat reservation (in a scenario where the coach isn’t fully reserved)

It isn’t really clear which one it is as on the website it says you get allocated a random seat yet it says when booking there’s unreserved seats so who knows
 
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On the website it says you get allocated one at random, yet on the same website when booking it shows a section of unreserved seats.

So either (in a scenario where the whole coach is booked) you’ll get assigned a seat at random or you’ll not get a seat reservation (in a scenario where the coach isn’t fully reserved)

It isn’t really clear which one it is as on the website it says you get allocated a random seat yet it says when booking there’s unreserved seats so who knows

That’s what confused me in terms of seating, I use the train most of the time but was considering giving Citylink a go again but this seat reservation malarkey for me doesn’t suit coach routes if I’m honest! (bad enough at times reservations on trains, got more confidence with LNER to that of ScotRail!)

I do think it’s a bit steep to charge £4 to be at the front of a bus and be £2 in the middie section, what’s the reason behind reservations all of a sudden?, wouldn’t it be better being free to pick?
 
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That’s what confused me in terms of seating, I use the train most of the time but was considering giving Citylink a go again but this seat reservation malarkey for me doesn’t suit coach routes if I’m honest! (bad enough at times reservations on trains, got more confidence with LNER to that of ScotRail!)

I do think it’s a bit steep to charge £4 to be at the front of a bus and be £2 in the middie section, what’s the reason behind reservations all of a sudden?, wouldn’t it be better being free to pick?
It is 100% better to have no reserved seats but I think they just want more money out of it. If I were to book a journey return journey from Glasgow to Aberdeen with up front seats, it would cost £9 (with my NEC card!) by the time (if I decided to) reserve seats

I doubt they will be enforced anyways as they aren’t enforced much on FlixBus

Otherwise, I’d recommend trying out Ember aswell as Citylink if you are ever travelling and would rather comfort over the length of time and they are often cheaper too
 

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It is 100% better to have no reserved seats but I think they just want more money out of it. If I were to book a journey return journey from Glasgow to Aberdeen with up front seats, it would cost £9 (with my NEC card!) by the time (if I decided to) reserve seats

I doubt they will be enforced anyways as they aren’t enforced much on FlixBus

Otherwise, I’d recommend trying out Ember aswell as Citylink if you are ever travelling and would rather comfort over the length of time and they are often cheaper too

If they wanted to bring this in would it not been better having all seats at same price?

I was looking at Ember the tickets aren’t available yet but Flixbus was, I’ve got the train going but will look at other options if need be, just ashame Citylink/Megabus to do this.
 

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If they wanted to bring this in would it not been better having all seats at same price?

I was looking at Ember the tickets aren’t available yet but Flixbus was, I’ve got the train going but will look at other options if need be, just ashame Citylink/Megabus to do this.
I'm pretty sure Ember's price is the same whether you book an hour, a day, week or a month in advance.
 
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I'm pretty sure Ember's price is the same whether you book an hour, a day, week or a month in advance.
Indeed, but the actual tickets haven’t come out yet to purchase

If they wanted to bring this in would it not been better having all seats at same price?
Not really, the seats at the front are more popular so it would make sense to charge more for them
 

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I'm pretty sure Ember's price is the same whether you book an hour, a day, week or a month in advance.

Just used Flixbus on return. I got it for £8.98 including seat reservations (layout of coach looked simpler)

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Indeed, but the actual tickets haven’t come out yet to purchase


Not really, the seats at the front are more popular so it would make sense to charge more for them

Fair enough as it seems similar to Flixbus as an example.


Further to add: has the Scottish Citylink app been removed from the app store(s), ie Apple/Google (pointing this out as on iOS I can no longer find it there and last few nights logging in the app failed to load, came up with a thread error and log in wasn’t available?), yet I’m sure it was updated recently?
 
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Did they ever have one? Any bookings I made were via a web page, not an App - and this required a log-in to find your details.
The app is still on Google play. It may have been temporarily withdrawn as bookings with seat reservations have now been released.
 

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Did they ever have one? Any bookings I made were via a web page, not an App - and this required a log-in to find your details.

I was using it recently as a guide until a few days ago it had an update to then go missing from the App Store
 

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That’s what confused me in terms of seating, I use the train most of the time but was considering giving Citylink a go again but this seat reservation malarkey for me doesn’t suit coach routes if I’m honest! (bad enough at times reservations on trains, got more confidence with LNER to that of ScotRail!)

I do think it’s a bit steep to charge £4 to be at the front of a bus and be £2 in the middie section, what’s the reason behind reservations all of a sudden?, wouldn’t it be better being free to pick?
I guess passengers are used to seat reservations in other forms of transport like rail and air. I am against them for coaches but I think the general public like the idea of choosing a seat and to customise their journey.

I remember buying day return to Dundee or Aberdeen but now its more an advance ticket model on citylink, On the railways people using the apps that will ask them to select a specific service even with flexible tickets, so they think they are advance tickets even for short trips.
 
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Did they ever have one? Any bookings I made were via a web page, not an App - and this required a log-in to find your details.
Yeah. I still have it downloaded on my phone

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Anyone know what runs the 16:20 Aberdeen > Glasgow M9?
Nobody apparently as it was cancelled ha
 
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Citylink / Megabus tickets are now valid for any service on the day of travel.


New Flexible Travel – Valid for the Day of Travel!
We’ve made travelling with Citylink even easier.

All Citylink tickets are valid for the entire day of travel shown on your ticket!

What that means for you
You can travel on any Citylink service on the same route and in the same direction at any time on that day.
You’re no longer restricted to the specific journey time you originally selected.
It gives you more freedom to adjust your plans or catch an earlier or later coach if needed.
If you’ve booked a specific departure time, you’ll still have a guaranteed seat on that service.

If you decide to travel on a different service the same day, we’ll do our best to get you on board, but please note, a seat isn’t guaranteed, and travel will depend on space being available.

Some services can be particularly busy during peak travel periods, events, or holidays, so we always recommend booking a specific time if you’d like to secure your seat in advance.
 

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I was on a CityLink to Glasgow the other day, and the passenger-facing dot-matrix screen on the lower deck was advertising the benefits of buying Stagecoach multi-journey ticket…. Have I missed a takeover announcement or did somebody hack it?
 

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Citylink / Megabus tickets are now valid for any service on the day of travel.


Wow. Surprised to see that. Is that not going to cause staff assaults when the last coach of the day leaves people behind? I'd have more expected a 70 Minute Flex style flexibility whereby you were encouraged to change your ticket online for free even if you didn't have to.

I assume this has been prompted by competition from Ember?

I was on a CityLink to Glasgow the other day, and the passenger-facing dot-matrix screen on the lower deck was advertising the benefits of buying Stagecoach multi-journey ticket…. Have I missed a takeover announcement or did somebody hack it?

There's long been a close association between Stagecoach and Citylink. I forget what it is now though (i.e. if Stagecoach still own any of it).
 

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Citylink / Megabus tickets are now valid for any service on the day of travel.


This is great news.

I think a lot of transport operators forget that the competition from bus or rail travel is actually the car. Fixed 'advance'-like ticketing suits the operator and not the customer. This is very welcome news from Citylink - I suspect this might have been partially due to the ability to change at the last minute tickets on Ember, which appear to replicate a lot of Citylink's routes, but Citylink do not have the technology to allow this.

For anyone interested, the full terms are here: https://www.citylink.co.uk/conditions-of-carriage/

With effect from 20 October 2025, any ticket issued by Scottish Citylink for scheduled services within Scotland shall be valid for travel on the calendar day stated on the ticket (“Date of Travel”).

A ticket grants the holder the right to travel on any Citylink service operating on the same route and in the same direction on the Date of Travel, subject always to seat availability.

Tickets shall not be restricted to the specific departure time selected at the time of purchase. This flexibility permits passengers to undertake their journey at any convenient time on the Date of Travel without the need for amendment, provided they travel on the same route and in the same direction.

Where a passenger books a ticket for a specific departure time, that passenger shall be entitled to a seat on the service corresponding to that booking, provided they present themselves for boarding at the designated departure point in accordance with the published check-in or boarding requirements.

Passengers who choose to travel on an alternative service operating on the same Date of Travel may do so under this valid-for-day-of-travel policy; however, a seat on that alternative service is not guaranteed, and travel shall be subject to seat availability at the time of boarding. Citylink shall not be liable in the event that a service is full and the passenger is unable to board.

Ticket validity applies strictly to the Date of Travel, the same route, and the same direction as originally booked. Tickets are not valid for travel on alternative dates, routes, or in the opposite direction.

All other provisions of these Terms and Conditions, including (without limitation) those relating to refunds, cancellations, amendments, and conditions of carriage, remain in full force and effect.

Scottish Citylink reserves the right to withdraw, vary, or suspend the valid-for-day-of-travel policy at any time without prior notice where operational, legal, or safety requirements make this necessary.

Seat Reservations and Capacity Limits

Seat availability on all Citylink services is subject to the maximum licensed passenger capacity of the coach. Once the available seats on a service have been allocated, no further passengers may be carried.

Passengers holding a ticket for a specific departure time shall have a seat reservation for that service only. Failure to present for boarding in accordance with published check-in or boarding times may result in the forfeiture of that seat, and Citylink shall not be required to provide alternative transport.

Passengers travelling under the valid-for-day-of-travel policy on a service other than the one originally booked acknowledge that they do so on a space-available basis. A seat on an alternative service cannot be guaranteed and shall be allocated only where capacity permits.

Citylink shall not be liable for any loss, delay, inconvenience, or consequential cost arising where a passenger is unable to board an alternative service due to capacity limits being reached.

Nothing in these Terms shall operate to exclude or restrict any statutory rights afforded to passengers under applicable transport or consumer protection legislation.

In an ideal world, it would be possible to break a journey for the maximum level of flexibility, but it isn't something I see in their terms.
 

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Wow. Surprised to see that. Is that not going to cause staff assaults when the last coach of the day leaves people behind? I'd have more expected a 70 Minute Flex style flexibility whereby you were encouraged to change your ticket online for free even if you didn't have to.

Citylink works off lower load factors than National Express and you get a lot more walk on passengers.
 

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I thought Citylink still offered open tickets as such. I recall buying day returns around 15 years ago and jumping on any coach back from Aberdeen.
 

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Citylink works off lower load factors than National Express and you get a lot more walk on passengers.

I'm very conscious that it's a bit of a hybrid operation that doesn't really exist in England - many routes are a bit more like the former use of coaches on the Oxford-Bedford(-Cambridge) X5 which is a wholly walk-up service aside from I think being bookable as a Megabus (but three quid so you wouldn't bother). But some services do routinely book full, most notably those going to/from Fort William, particularly the through buses to Skye.
 
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Festive Timetables are out, Noticed they're taking NECs on New Year's Day this time, Probably due to Ember and Flixbus taking them

Not taking them on Christmas Day however.
 

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Are Parks selling their Panoramas, seems like they've all had their regs changed back to standard UK ones
 

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