S Stock Deliveries - No longer Suspended

[trivran]

S Stock:
- They doors still always scare the **** out of me hock:
- Acceleration seems average? Maybe that was just the drivers and not the train?
- Probably could do with a bit more 2+2 seating
- Very bright interior
- The lights on the inside don't fit in with the modern interior IMO dunno why


Don't really see the problem with a plastic interior?

How could you say that about the doors? They've turned the volume down on them It's the best bit..the acceleration is to match the A Stock..

One thing I will say is..the S Stock smell horrible.

 

[ert47]

How could you say that about the doors? They've turned the volume down on them It's the best bit..the acceleration is to match the A Stock..

One thing I will say is..the S Stock smell horrible.

Do they smell as bad as SouthEasterns's 375? (they smell like crayons most of the time)

 

[NY Yankee]

How could you say that about the doors? They've turned the volume down on them It's the best bit..the acceleration is to match the A Stock..

One thing I will say is..the S Stock smell horrible.

Does it have that new car smell?

 

[MCR247]

How could you say that about the doors? They've turned the volume down on them .

Noo not the sound, but the way they open. The actual sound of them opening! And the speed, you try and touch the door button and they fly open!

 

[trivran]

The smell? Imagine Crayons and Curry.

Oh god yes, that got me to, those evil doors flying open when you think the driver has set it to pax operate..huge shock..

 

[hluraven]

The doors certainly open with a bang, and they have a bit of a new car smell to them, but they are very decent trains. The old A's had more character of course, but were well past their prime.

 

[Kingsbury Jn.]

Hi!

A new S-Stock unit passed Kingsbury this evening at ~ 18.35. Usual consist (4 x 20's, tanks, etc) with 20227 at rear in BR blue. Cannot mistake that sound!

 

[jon0844]

Should the subject be changed now - as it keeps making me think deliveries are suspended when that's obviously no longer the case.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Agreed; maybe just re-name it "S Stock deliveries" or something?

 

[Dstock7080]

Hi!

A new S-Stock unit passed Kingsbury this evening at ~ 18.35. Usual consist (4 x 20's, tanks, etc) with 20227 at rear in BR blue. Cannot mistake that sound!

S Stock +20s are not permitted to run until after the last SB train.

 

[clagmonster]

S Stock +20s are not permitted to run until after the last SB train.

I think the post referred to Kingsbury, Warwickshire, situated between Tamworth and Birmingham.

 

[causton]

I think the post referred to Kingsbury, Warwickshire, situated between Tamworth and Birmingham.

I was confused as well, as Kingsbury would not be the normal route for the delivery to take, being up a dead end and all :P

Why are deliveries not permitted when trains are running then?

 

[cle]

I travel between Farringdon and Baker St daily on the Met (not H&C as I change to Bakerloo and am lazy!) - and I hate the A Stocks.

They're old, slow and not suitable for the Central London stretch. People don't move down and they're not good for crowds.

I suspect people living in Amersham would have a very different experience. Problem is that these trains need to be two things: commuter rail and then high density tube. I use it for the latter, and the S Stock is incredibly welcome.

 

[Dstock7080]

Why are deliveries not permitted when trains are running then?

4x cl.20 + S8 + 2 barrier vehicles are very long trains for the LU signalling to cope with, especially south of Moor Park.

 

[CC 72100]

Oh god yes, that got me to, those evil doors flying open when you think the driver has set it to pax operate..huge shock..

They truly do give you a bit of a shock, they're lethal! Reminds me of some of the Paris metro stock, where you flick up a catch and the doors (rapidly) open.
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I suspect people living in Amersham would have a very different experience. Problem is that these trains need to be two things: commuter rail and then high density tube. I use it for the latter, and the S Stock is incredibly welcome.

Nail hit on the head there. My experiences of the Met is normally coming in from uxbridge area, so a good 30 - 35 minutes. I found the S stock ok, just not as cosy as the old A stock, but people get found and a bit misty-eyed over old things. I'd still go for an A stock if I saw one for old times sake and to have one before total withdrawl, but the S stock is a more than adequate replacement long term

 

[HSTEd]

Could always try to solve that problem by braking the line in half at Baker Street.....

 

[jopsuk]

but the big selling point of the Met, over say Chiltern services, is that it has services direct to the heart of the City of London

 

[Peter Mugridge]

After today, there are only 18 S8 pairs which I have not had for haulage; allowing for deliveries still being commissioned the bug eyed things are creeping ever closer to total domination!

5080 + 5092 were today's A Stock scrap run, by the way.:cry:

 

[EM2]

The smell? Imagine Crayons and Curry.

Oh god yes, that got me to, those evil doors flying open when you think the driver has set it to pax operate..huge shock..

So can they be pax operated? I caught one last week from KXSP to Liv. St. and the doors seemed to be closed longer than usual, then someone pressed the door button and they opened. Buit I'd assumed it was just coincidental!

 

[Peter Mugridge]

They open automatically when the train comes to a stop, then they close after a set time from the last detected person passing through them following which they can be opened again by means of the button until the departure sequence closes the doors for, well, departure.

 

[Dstock7080]

After today, there are only 18 S8 pairs which I have not had for haulage; allowing for deliveries still being commissioned the bug eyed things are creeping ever closer to total domination!

Just 9 S8s not yet delivered; +3 S8-1, +2 PP S8s to be redelivered.

They open automatically when the train comes to a stop, then they close after a set time from the last detected person passing through them following which they can be opened again by means of the button until the departure sequence closes the doors for, well, departure.

The doors are still opened by the driver.

 

[causton]

The doors are still opened by the driver.

Pretty sure that's what he meant by 'the doors open automatically when the train comes to a stop' - either that or the driver has to hope he doesn't meet a red signal anywhere inbetween stations

 

[jopsuk]

there's at least one S7 pretty much finished- no transverse seating for these, which may upset those travelling in from the outer reaches of the District. Also- strap hangers!

 

[CC 72100]

After today, there are only 18 S8 pairs which I have not had for haulage; allowing for deliveries still being commissioned the bug eyed things are creeping ever closer to total domination!

5080 + 5092 were today's A Stock scrap run, by the way.:cry:

When are all the A stock likely to be gone by does anybody know? I was thinking of a trip to London in July possibly, and would have liked to have done an A stock before they all go.

Thanks in advance

 

[Dstock7080]

When are all the A stock likely to be gone by does anybody know? I was thinking of a trip to London in July possibly, and would have liked to have done an A stock before they all go.

Thanks in advance

I would make sure you visit before that large sporting event at the end of July! All the As should be gone by then.
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Pretty sure that's what he meant by 'the doors open automatically when the train comes to a stop' - either that or the driver has to hope he doesn't meet a red signal anywhere inbetween stations

I just thought the original poster was under the misapprehension that doors were already setup automatically, as LU are planning to implement.

 

[MCR247]

Also- strap hangers!

Notice though that they are straight out of 378s by the looks of things and only appear in that carriage from what I can see

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Just 9 S8s not yet delivered; +3 S8-1, +2 PP S8s to be redelivered.

What's the second pre production set? If it's 21003/4 that's been in traffic for a long time. I thought it was only the first set, 21001/2, that needed to come back?

The ones I haven't bashed are:

21001/2
21035/6
21037/8
21045/6
21047/8
21059/60
21083/4
21085/6
21087/8
21093/4
21099/100
21101/2
21105/6 upwards.

 

[CC 72100]

I would make sure you visit before that large sporting event at the end of July! All the As should be gone by then.
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What is this large sporting event you mention? (jokes)

Ok, will make a note of that, thanks for your help

 

[Eagle]

Notice though that they are straight out of 378s by the looks of things and only appear in that carriage from what I can see

Not surprising, given that they were built by the same people in the same place for the same client.

 

[jon0844]

Why, given the fact that the S-stock and 2009 stock were both built by Bombardier is the door opening chime different? Would there be any logical reason for this that I'm missing, or just a case of whatever parts available at the time?

I used two S-Stock trains again today (in fact, at Baker St I saw nothing but them) and I have to say I really like them. But I'm also quite a fan of the 378s (but the interior is nicer on the S-Stock IMO). All of my experiences of them seem to be good, and I hope the problems are long gone now. Can't wait for the S7s now.