S Stock (Circle/H&C) carriage maps

[warriorofrovac]

I was travelling on the S stock, Circle line yesterday and I noticed that the route map on the carriages doesn't show line connectivity for the Met between KGX and Baker Street.

Does the Metropolitan no longer go down to Aldgate regularly or is it simply TFL trying to get cross-line connection done as bigger stations that can handle the passenger flow?

 

[Dstock7080]

Most Metropolitan services still depart from Baker Street, although from 14 December off-peak services will be increased to 12tph Aldgate-Baker Street.

Similarly the south side of the Circle only shows interchange with the District at Tower Hill and South Kensington.

 

[edwin_m]

Does it show Metropolitan interchange at Kings Cross, just not the other stations? If so then they have presumably decided that is the best station to make the same-platform interchange, possibly because it has been modernised recently.

If it only shows Baker Street then that is the station with most services to choose from, and the obvious interchange to/from the Paddington direction, although to/from the east a quicker interchange may sometimes be possible at Kings Cross or elsewhere because there is no need to change platforms.

 

[swt_passenger]

Surely the normal convention for in car line maps is that they only show the first and/or last line to line connections at either end of common running sections? So Baker St is shown as a Met/Circle/H&C interchange only because it is a junction, but subsequent common stations on a line are not junctions so don't need to show the other lines passing through. This is another way of explaining Dstock7080's second point above, of course.

If heading clockwise from Edgware Rd the only place you need to know about is Baker St, if you need to get off and go up the Met. There's no logical requirement to change from H&C/Circle to Met after Baker St - unless you are on an H&C and want Aldgate, but that is already clear form the map anyway.

If heading anticlockwise from Liverpool St, Baker St is the last place you can change onto the Met, so it gets to be shown.

 

[tranzitjim]

I agree with all of the comments above.

Furthermore, a portion of Metroplolitan trains will terminate at Baker Street. So, always, the best station to get a Metropolitan train from between Baker Street and Algate will always be Baker Street.

I admit that I do not know what the frequencies are like and how many short route at Baker Street. However, that is sure to change up and down over time, and it is always a good idea to 'future proof' the maps just in case there may be a time of when most services may terminate at Baker Street.

 

[bb21]

Surely the normal convention for in car line maps is that they only show the first and/or last line to line connections at either end of common running sections? So Baker St is shown as a Met/Circle/H&C interchange only because it is a junction, but subsequent common stations on a line are not junctions so don't need to show the other lines passing through. This is another way of explaining Dstock7080's second point above, of course.

I agree with this interpretation. It also helps to "declutter" the map.

The interchanges in-between don't need to be shown, as either the end stations will provide an equally good (if not better) journey time.